Why in the world would I bring the phone in the shower?
I do it all the time. Before smart phones were a thing I had a water proof shower radio. Now I use the phone for the same thing. Mostly listening to news or a podcast or something. Sometime it’s a Nebula video, but in the shower I’d just be listening to it like a podcast anyway. Before phones were waterproof I used to use a waterproof Bluetooth speaker.
I’ve never had steam cause a problem, but then again my showers aren’t long, aren’t very hot and my phone is kept pretty high up and out of the way.
my showers aren’t long
So, why… oh, forget it.
Everyone uses their phones while eating or pooping. Those activities don’t take long either. I choose to listen to something while showering.
It’s ok if you don’t understand it or do it yourself, but some people take their phone into the shower. It is a thing.
I like to sometimes take a break from my phone while pooping and read a product label, like the olden times
Would recommend every now and then
Nah. I had to do that the other day and lemme tell you, shampoo bottles just don’t hit the same these days.
or pooping
Those activities don’t take long
That’s a strange assumption here
“Everyone” does not use their phone while eating or pooping. I make an effort to engage with mine as little as possible, in a perfect world checking it when I wake up when I get home and before bed. For me the phone is a weird mix of useful tool and addictive drug, almost impossible to drop entirely but very much worth limiting access to. Constant stimulation is certainly a choice you can make, but probably not a healthy one. I view what you’re doing the same way you might view someone saying they always drink a beer in the shower.
Everyone uses their phones while eating or pooping.
We do??
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Pooping takes forever 🥺 and please don’t say fiber. There’s no room left for more 💀
You can get a waterproof Bluetooth speaker pretty cheap. Better sound and zero risk of anything happening to the phone. I love mine.
To shave your butthole via camera
Like a few other commenters, I had never even thought that taking your phone into the shower was a thing until I saw this post.
Just… why? Why risk it? Your average smart phone is anywhere from $500 to over $1000, so what’s so important that you’re deliberately exposing it to water and the risk of dropping it (especially if you’re using shampoo, conditioner, soap or any other bathroom product designed to act as a cleaning agent)? Surely whatever it is can wait however long it is you’re showering for?
Personally, I wouldn’t want a friend/relative/whatever phoning me or answering the phone if they were in the shower or using the bathroom.
I can understand one of the other comments about using it to listen to podcasts/music/videos/etc., and at least in that case the phone is presumably far enough away (and not being regularly accessed) that it’s at lower risk. Fair enough – I sometimes do that whilst washing dishes. Still, I think I’d struggle trying to listen to something whilst actively showering – too much other noise.
The shower is the one place where I can have some peace and switch off. No news, no noise, no immediate crises that need solving. Just listen to the running water, enjoy for a bit, feel a little bit more relaxed and clean afterwards. A phone would achieve the exact opposite.
A shower is 1/10 of a haircut on the meditative activities scale.
I buzz my head in the shower, does that mean I get 110% every time?
That sounds correct
my phone is here for a good time, not a long time
Seriously, if it survives being attached to me for 2-3 years, a little occasional steam damage is not going to be its biggest concern
I read my daily web fiction in the shower while I wake up. My iPhone 10 is still going strong after all these years of steam. Hell, it’s been dropped several times.
Yeah it’s a little weird, but we’ve all gotta cope in this world
I had a “waterproof” e reader that was sitting in the bathroom directly opposite the shower for a week, the battery got fucked up and the case popped off
Doesn’t sound like that’s related
That sounds directly related to the point of the article
The battery, unrelated to the humidity.
Meh. I started doing this with my iPod 10 ish years ago, continued it with an Android that had no IP rating, and still do it with an IP-rated flagship. Over daily showers all that time I have yet to drop or have one fail. I have also used them in the rain on occasion. If something happens I will consider a 1 in 3,000 occurence not bad.
Same. I like to listen to music or podcasts in the shower sometimes. I’m not standing in the water with my phone but sometimes it gets wet because I change sometime. I’ve never had an issue
Who the fuck pays 500 bucks for a phone? It’s a fucking phone. You gotta make phone calls and get spied by Google and everything, that’s all I see.
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Exactly. This is how I find out people bring their phones into the shower.
In case you don’t actually know anybody under the age of about 35, the next time you are riding a bus or are a passenger in a car, start watching other drivers and see how many of them literally cannot put their phones down. Like even if they aren’t actually looking at them while they drive, which is like a solid 30% of all drivers, another significant chunk is holding the phone even when not in use. The shower is not even a high bar at this point.
Laughs in South Australia.
$592 + Victims of Crime levy = $700 fine if you’re caught using your phone while driving or stopped at a intersection (inc. red light)
You’re only allowed to use a phone mounted in a cradle for Audio calls and GPS navigation. (Uber, etc is a grey area)
Don’t use your phone while driving. Just don’t do it.
Wouldn’t advise them to do that if they rent a car in Norway. The fine is about $1100 if they’re caught, plus three points on the license.
How else am I going to clean the phone after using it while I shit? That’s dirty
Next you’ll be telling me I should use a bidet instead of cleaning my ass with the shower wand.
How else am I going to clean the phone after using it while I shit?
Obviously you do what 99.99999999% of people do. Nothing. Never clean it. Ever. From the day you buy it. At most you wipe the screen with some water. Maybe windex.
Source: Repaired cell phones for years.
I would recommend sanitizing wipes for that. Alcohol, not chemical chlorox or whatever.
Alcohol wipes on my ass!?
That’s gonna burn the shit out of my hemorrhoids, no thank you!
Why not? (The article says steam is a problem, so cold showers are alright)
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Pretty sure they actually mean the bathroom, not the shower.
Keep it outside the bathroom if possible
Ummm…to read this post on Lemmy?
Also, I need a new phone - the steam has made my pixel 8 pro front camera all cloudy and my screen has started dying.
To be honest, that’s a very expensive solution to feed what sounds like an internet addiction. I have a Pixel 8 Pro too, and it’s still in as-new condition. I’ll keep it till it breaks by itself
Cool. I’m very happy for you.
Of all addictions to have it could be worse. But it’s actually the opposite. I love long warm showers - something about the water hitting my back whilst sitting on a stool that feels very relaxing. I have video essays going whilst I do that.
Came here to say just that. I’m a grown ass man, I just take me in the showed.
Probably the same people who drink beer in their shower.
To occasionally check the time.
People bring their phones into the shower?!
Always wild concept to me. People bringing their $1000 electronics into an environment not made for them. Like come on, how long are you in the shower, do you really need to be entertained while washing your body?
I’ve noticed an increasing number of people that use their phone the entire time they’re at the urinal in public restrooms. This takes what? A minute tops? I’ve also seen people set it next to the sink to keep looking while washing their hands…assuming they even do to begin with.
That is some next level shamelessness, what the fuuuu—
Tech addiction is tough. When people don’t like their environment they try to escape it and unfortunately the black mirror is there waiting for them. It’s not productive but it provides comfort.
You can spend 1 millisecond away from your tsunami of AI sludge!?
Back before smartphones, when everyone was bleaching the tattletale to get the phone warrantied after getting even a little water near it, there was a rumor going around. Kids with friends in Japan were hearing that people over there had waterproof cellphones and would be talking while in the shower. We were super jealous, not for shower talking, but for the feature. I’d think ICP rated phones today should be able to handle some humidity.
There are Insane Clown Posse rated phones!? I need one of those because I keep killing mine because I spill Faygo on it.
Just be sure to keep it away from magnets as we don’t know how they work
when everyone was bleaching the tattletale to get the phone warrantied after getting even a little water near it,
This sentence fragment really threw me for a loop lol… It took a minute, but I got there eventually.
I’ve done it before. Time-constrained, watching something interesting.
These days I’ll shower with a resistant earbud in, listening to music. I shower early/late and don’t want the music to wake my partner. (probably less likely than the shower itself, but that’s how i roll)
Can’t give your wife any chance on reading texts of you hitting on other women.
Notthst I’m cheating with other women (seriously who can be bothered) my phone is locked with my fingerprint. As much as we share a lot in life I have not given her copies of my fingerprints so she couldn’t unlock the phone anyway. In theory she knows the passcode but since she asks me for it every single time she needs to use my phone I’m recently confident she doesn’t retain it.
WHO USES THEIR PHONE IN THE SHOWER
You don’t watch YouTube while scrubbing down with sudds??
Yes. YouTube.
Literally, i put on like a podcast or 10min science video or something to listen to while i shower. Gotta be dopamine maxing
Your username kills me. I literally just watch that episode yesterday 🤣🤣
Same people who use their phone in the car
Obsessed people
Me.
Not often, because I like bathing and using phone is wasting your water relaxation time. But, I do use it sometimes when I want music or am in the middle of something and also need or want to take a shower or bath.
Phone reading in the bath is amazing.
To be clear, I also have always strived for completely waterproof cases.
I will set some music, but I also don’t have a humidity problem in my bathroom.
There is two people in this thread
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people who read “bringing your phone in the shower” as having the phone in the same room as the shower.
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everyone else who seems to think that people are putting their phones directly under the shower nozzle.
Really poor wording on this article. Most people don’t think “bringing your phone into the shower,” means “leave your phone in the bathroom while you take a shower.”
I read it as number one and still got confused why people did this. I leave it in another room while I take a shower… is that not what people normally do?
Yeah, I always leave the phone outside the bathroom, never even thought to bring it with me. I guess this the new age addiction to bring phones everywhere you go even inside of your own home.
I always take it, but it’s a bit of personal history
I once got stuck in a shower room because the lock broke, and I’ve spent about 6 hours on something like 3 square meters without any way to contact the external world nor entertain myself. It was just me, bath, washing machine and the sink. I’ve been alone at the house, so I couldn’t ask for help. Also, hot water pipes were being repaired, so I couldn’t take a nice shower/bath while at it, either.
Since then, I always took a phone with me. Just in case, y’know.
Sounds like a trauma response tbh 😅
Absolutely is! lol
For me, if I’m needing to lock the door then I’m not alone, whereas if I’m alone then I’m not gonna bother locking the door so I shouldn’t need immediate access to my phone.
Although, having your phone in a bathroom drawer is probably not nearly as bad as having it in the open room since the steam won’t get to it as easily.
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Wait, are the !showerthoughts@lemmy.world people really posting from the shower?!
I don’t think so, people have shower thoughts when they are away from phone
“They are showering us with their refined thoughts”
It is pretty amazing to me that some people really have to be told not to bring their expensive electronics into the shower. It’s the shower, just wash your dirty ass and get out.
Tbf, since I have done this some 2-3 times:
Some special shampoos require you to be sitting there for like 10 minutes until it does its thing. I thought it was safe since water was no longer coming out of the shower, I didn’t consider the high humidity environment.
Why not use that time to soap up and rinse off your body while you wait for the shampoo to do its thing? That’s what I do.
As a cyclist, that’s leg shaving time.
‘special shampoo’
is that your code for jackin’ it in the shower?
Feels so awkward to jack off in the shower. I much prefer doing it sitting in the toilet.
When I say special shampoo I mean it. Like the one time my dog got fleas so I used anti-flea dog shampoo just in case. It took forever.
I find it meditative… washing the nooks, rinsing, etc. I do, sometimes, run music outside on a counter with a door open.
I didn’t know people did that
same, i would think people put it in a ziplock bag with water abosrbent packs at the least.
if you feel the need to bring your phone into the shower, you really need to take a hard look into your steamed up mirror
Can’t see mirror due to steam so need to use the phone selfie cam ofc :>
I just got an LG Smart mirror, no steam!
LG Smart
It is most likely spying in you.
It tells me I’m the handsomest boy in the whole building except the guy in 3B. He drives a Porche.
I once met a hooker who said “I’ll do anything for 50 dollars”. I replied, “Paint my house.”
I gave her a paint bucket and told her to start with the porch.
She came back about an hour later and said “All done!”.
I said, “Wow, that was fast.”
She said, “Yeah, I’m getting pretty good at this. Oh and by the way, that’s not a porch, it’s a Mercedes.”
I brought a Steam Frame into the shower!
What do the data processing term say?
It’s either a phone or a radio/speaker. Sometimes a portable CD player with aux cable.
Why not a tape deck in the shower?
Who… da fuq… does this??
Nah hold on.
Manufacturers stole repairability and the headphone jack from us under the guise of waterproofing and now you make fun of people who use the feature?!?
If I had to give that shit up then I want the damn feature. Otherwise waterproof speakers exist and we never had to give up anything.
Taking away the headphone jack was more likely so they could try to make you buy $200 wireless headphones that need to be replaced every few years.
the one person who downvoted this loves corporate abuse and spending money on dumb shit.
Every few years? Brave of you to assume that after owning them for 6 months or so I haven’t sent all of my wireless earbuds through the wash because I didn’t feel them in the pocket when doing laundry.
Now I’m using over ear wireless headphones because I can’t mistakenly wash a huge set of cans.
Side note: I can wash your mom’s huge set of cans
Manufacturers stole repairability and the headphone jack from us under the guise of waterproofing and now you make fun of people who use the feature?!?
Because said waterproofing was for accidental, rare incidents of exposure, such that you have enough time to yank it somewhere safe before water penetrated.
Waterproofing was never meant for intentional, repeated, or extended exposure to extreme environments. That’s what waterproof cases are for. You know, the kind that allow your phone to go intentionally into water.
Yea that’s my whole argument. We lost very important things for some bullshit.
Should be an option, not mandatory.
Offering options costs a lot more.
Yea I don’t care.
We make excuses thousands of times a year for every shit ass corporation.
Fuck em. Figure it out and stop delivering FOMO dogshit to people.
Repairability is more important than some adult childs inability to hang on to an item or make the correct decision to buy waterproof said item.
<raises hand>
I listen to The Daily podcast or audiobooks. The phone goes into a little 3D printed holder to keep it dry and redirect the sound. I’ve done this for years with multiple phones, never any issues.
Even though modern iPhones are “waterproof” I like to keep it as dry as possible. The touchscreen stops working reliably if it gets wet, and the speakers can get blocked by water droplets and reduces the volume.
It’s also worth noting that living in the PNW requires using the bathroom fan to keep the moisture down. The bathroom never gets that steamy, which I’m sure drastically changes the moisture exposure equation.
In the bathroom in general, I can understand. Even without a fan, the steam rarely reaches countertop height, so putting it on the countertop or the lid of the toilet or something else low still makes sense if you are in the shower.
My issue lies in having it IN the shower, and having it taking the moisture straight in the teeth. Like… why?? It’s not like it is impossible to hear from next to the shower, well out of the way of said moisture.
Why? Mostly, so I can control it if an episode ends but also for max volume over the shower sounds. When I travel and don’t have a good place for it, I will use a nearby toilet or counter.
Same. Geez Lemmy really gets up on a pedestal about this.
I hate hearing my own thoughts and everything’s depressing right now. Listening to music instead of my own thoughts is considered a plus.
I mean I do bring the phone into the bathroom to listen to music, but I use it with a bluetooth speaker and it stays on the sink. Why would you even bring it inside the shower? Capacitive touch screens work like shit when wet.
I have a stand opposite where it stays dry. My shower is fairly big and I put it where the shampoo and conditioner is and it’s where the wall is … I’d never keep it wet.
I don’t touch the screen. I just listen to things. I could just leave it on the counter.
if you can’t be alone with your own thoughts you need therapy. not an insult. if you can’t stand what kind of person you are to the point that your thoughts are toxic, talk to someone. seriously.
I’ve been to therapy, many times … yes, I’m suffering, yes I’m trying to improve and no it isn’t easy and I’m going through something rough really right now.
I have a lot of friends around me and no one to turn to but yeah, I’m not looking for an online consult right now (as in I’m not holding you or any other Lemmy socially hostage about this). I just can’t bear my own thoughts right now.
[edit] thanks though from across the Internet, I do appreciate it [/edit]
My cousin kill a phone this way. He would leave it on the sink to listen to music while he showered and it died (old house - no exhaust fan). It happens.
A lot of people in Japan supposedly, at least that’s what someone told me once. Apparently JDM smartphones had waterproofing way before others because of that.
My thoughts too.
Do people not understand how electronics react to water?
Who the hell takes their phone into the shower?
Its where I make the most tips on onlyfans
Every day humanity finds a way to disappoint me a little more
Wanting to listen to music in the shower??? Could humanity get any lower? Disgusting
I do listen to music in the shower, lmao
I take my waterproof Bluetooth speaker inside the shower, and leave my phone in the other room
Even if I didn’t have a speaker, you don’t need to have your phone in the shower with you to be able to hear it
I have a marsboy, and it is on the sink, not in the shower. But then again, I also leave the door open and the exhaust on, so the mirror doesn’t fog. But I honestly wouldn’t take anything with a screen in there.
However, I did have a airpod fall out of my left ear and it dropped in the toilet. Due to its “sleek design” it took me a good five minutes to retrieve it. Kept it separated from activation and tried it out over a few hours. Surprisingly, it still works.
But it does remind me of a coworker who had an iPod Touch and bragged that he had found the perfect pocket: his breast pocket. That same day, he destroyed in when it fell in the toilet.
I cheered him up by sending him the IT Crowd episode where Moss did the same thing with his cell phone.
Lmao, I love the IT crowd
That’s a good point about leaving the door open, I leave it closed and steam my shit up (I do have the exhaust on tho, I’m not a maniac)
Yeah, disgusting that you need constant media and disgusting that you spend that much time in the shower.
It takes me about 20 minutes to shower, shave, brush my teeth, and dress, but in all fairness, I pick out my clothes before I go to bed.
I think it’s pretty common to take a wank in the shower, but I suppose others use it for music or radios
Pretty common? I guess if you want clogged drains.
Why should it clog anything?
Dear lord, talk to a plumber. Ejaculate becomes more vicous when heat is applied. Your shower drain probably looks like the president’s arteries. And it sticks to hair. You are going to have an embarrassing discussion with the plumber, buddy.
You’re capping mate, it becomes a fluid after 15-30 minutes.
What? Are you ejaculating gas? Dude, that’s a fart. Do it from the other direction, but don’t do it in the shower.
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I’ve been doing this for around 10 years, have very hot, steamy showers and never had a problem 🤷
Started with the Samsung Galaxy S7, one of the earlier water resistant phones, and I’ve been doing it ever since, across maybe 5 phones, almost every day. You’ll be fine. If you are worried about drops, just use a decent case.
As for why, others have said, it’s to keep listening to my YouTube video essays and similar. Stuff that doesn’t need to be seen to be appreciated.
10 years, 5 phones
So you only keep your phones 2 years, it’s possible you simply don’t have them long enough to accumulate a noticible amount of steam damage.
You made me check and the phone I’m using now is 6 years old
It has varied. I used to keep them 1-2 years when they used to improve a lot year-to-year. The last 2 phones I’ve had 3 years each.
After I’m done with it, I hand my phone over to my brother, who runs it into the ground over the course of the next 3 or so years, until it’s almost unusably slow. My brother does the shower thing too, but less often. Maybe 30% of the time and less steamy.
It’s possible that there could be gradual, over time damage. Rust growing until it forms a short. But that’s not been my experience.
Ultimately, it’s up to you if you want to take the risk, but given how I treated mine, if you even did this half as often as I did, you’re probably fine.
I didn’t mention this above, but I sometimes also used the phone inside the shower. Clicking the next video or checking a message notification. Maybe 1 in 8 days.
I’ve also sometimes washed the crud off the phone under the sink, rather than my normal approach with isopropyl alcohol. The worst I’d get is a notification saying I couldn’t charge for a bit, or the speaker sounding funny for half an hour or so.
You might call me crazy, but I don’t like to baby my stuff. I paid for water resistance, I’m going to make use of it.
I am the same way, and I didn’t know it would upset so many people lol. And it’s not a phone addiction thing either, I’m just having a comfy relaxing time in the shower and that may include having some entertainment.
In the actual shower, where the water is? Who does that?
Me. I have a phone mount installed in the shower. I need my dopamine receptors to be constantly stimulated from artificial sources, or I can’t accomplish basic tasks like cleaning/showering/cooking. Executive Dysfunction is a bitch.
People with normal dopamine levels just can’t relate, so I get a lot of flack and am often called lazy. Which is annoying as hell because I genuinely want to be a functioning adult, but my stubborn brain just refuses to let me accomplish anything without external stimulation. It’s torture being labeled something you’re not, just because someone can’t understand what it’s like when your brain won’t make the reward chemicals on its own. But it is what it is.
Also BTW I’ve been doing this for a decade and only once has a phone actually died on me from water damage. So I don’t worry about it. I’m clumsy so I always have an insurance plan for my phones regardless…
Is that not something that meds like Ritalin can help with, like ADHD? Or is it different?
Stimulants like Adderall, PEA, Octodrine, and Propylhexedrine are a half decent band-aid, but they raise my blood pressure and make me feel “tweaky” so I don’t want to take them every day. They feel like they’re slowly killing me. I mean imagine taking meth every single day. That’s what it feels like for me. Unfortunately since tolerance builds rapidly, I have to take massive doses for it to continue working, further compounding the problem.
So I try not to take stims more than a few times a month, because even once a week is too much for me. It sucks ass that there’s no long-term solution for ADHD. Just temporary fixes that rapidly stop working.
Man adderall gave me psychosis that landed me in a mental hospital. I’m also a non functional adult and I’m trying to unfuck my document situation here in Hell America. I do agree that yeah; stimulants are bad especially if you are like me. Who is prone to bouts of insanity because on stims you really can’t really control your own thoughts anymore. It’s a terrifying experience and honestly it’s not that that uncommon to have ADD or ADHD and be a bit psychotic. Especially worse with the OCD that I used to have with it. But you know at least I had a super friendly dog and grandparents to take care of me and a Nintendo Switch. I got over it eventually but I never wanna go through that experience ever again. Though I do appreciate having the ability to sleep for an entire year essentially through a winter. Being in a dark room also helped a lot. It kinda feels like a fever dream when I remember it now though. I should probably go back on anti psychotics after my most recent break with stimulants. Shame I don’t have money or health insurance.
It sucks ass that there’s no long-term solution for ADHD. Just temporary fixes that rapidly stop working.
There is exciting research being done in metabolic psychiatry looking at ADHD in fat adapted people. There is a ongoing study (https://doi.org/10.1186/ISRCTN62698625) but there is a good expectation they will see sustained results, this is inline with Dr. Georgia Ede’s metabolic strategy in Change your Diet Change your mind. The study authors gave a interview 2 years ago - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUAbqXcSAzg , so maybe we will see the results published soon.
infographic of change your diet, change your mind
TLDR - metabolism and brain energy appear to be the core of many psychiatric conditions, so its worth trying a fat burning metabolism for 30 days and see if it improves your ADHD.
You have showers with water?
I like to do some business calls under the shower.
I do, setting it in the corner makes the acoustics great for playing music
ok, who is doing this?
It’s me. I did it.
I have brought my phone into the bathroom (not shower) exactly twice, in my entire life… and both times it was because I was expecting a vitally important call, and could not wait for the call to come before getting in the shower.
I can not imagine the necessity of regularly taking your phone into the goddamn shower itself
You take it out of your pants pocket before entering the bathroom?
No, I dont walk around my house with my phone in my pocket.
I don’t either but I often use the bathroom after coming back home from outside, and the phone is still in my pocket at least then.
And so at work?
I don’t regularly shower at work
You said bathroom hence my confusion
Unless they use bathroom as the term for the room where you wash yourself not the toilet.
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What in the boomer is this comment.
fortunately the Steam deck doesn’t have that problem
If this is you, seek help. You have a problem.
I guess I’m a monster for liking a podcast going in the shower? THE HORROR!!
How long do you spend in the shower? Do you have time to turn off your brain for 5–10 minutes? I recommend it from time to time. Sometimes I even drive to work, or especially from work, without any audio on. It’s surprisingly relaxing.
But maybe I’m talking to one of the generations who grew up with mobile phones. I imagine it’s harder for them.
That’s great for you.
What is?
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Why is the phone IN the shower with you to listen to a podcast? Or are you just trying to be victimized here?
Alright, man. As long as you get some type of down time, that sounds great. 👍
I deleted that because sounded way too pissy, apologies. I definitely don’t get enough time away but I have been actively trying and have noticed my brain feels clearer and calmer. Some days I do want the endless distraction though and I think that’s totally fine, as long as it isn’t every day. I did have nonstop something going for a few years and I didn’t realize how miserable and forgetful I was
I deleted that because sounded way too pissy, apologies.
Ah, gosh, you didn’t have to delete it just because you felt it was “pissy” 😅 No worries 🫶
Yeah, we all have different situations and mindsets, and brain needs. I’m happy if you’re happy. Take care!
I mean, I just set my phone just outside the shower and turn the volume up a touch. Once upon a time I had a weatherproof bag I’d seal my phone in that was originally meant for a solar powered flashlight for emergency use. The bag was triple sealed and I doubt any steam reached the phone.
If you put it in the sink the sink acts like an amphitheater
Yeah, but my sink is far enough from the shower that the effect isn’t worth it.
Listening to something in the shower is not what the is about.
I just like to watch porn in the shower.
yeah, my reaction to the headline was ‘what the fuck’.
but then i realize i’m the weirdo who doesn’t do that. some folks can’t be more than 5ft from their phone without having an anxiety attract
