Biden’s office announced his illness Sunday afternoon.
Why can’t the current president get aggressive cancer? Everyone would love that (although I would pity the cancer).
Since this is an opportunity to educate people about health, I will not discuss politics here. :)
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If you’re a guy, your urinary tract is stupidly complicated from a medical viewpoint and there’s a prostate beneath the bladder which hydrogenates testosterone (T is produced by the brain) into dihydrotestosterone, produces fluid to mix the seminal fluid with, and generally supports fertility and gender specific phenotype.
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With progressing age, the prostate enlarges, gets infected with HPV (nearly everyone gets it) and may get bacterial infections (typical ones are E. coli). It may also develop calcinations.
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Risk is reduced if you live in Asia and eat a traditional menu containing much soy bean products which enables guys in those regions to enjoy several times less prostate cancer.
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Risk is increased with nearly every urinary tract infection, especially if not conclusively diagnosed and treated.
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After the age of 40, regularly have PSA (prostate specific antigen) measured from a blood test. It tells how much disintegration and immune reaction is occurring down there.
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Regularly have ultrasound check-ups done. If there are UTI symptoms, treatment must not occur blindly, but must be followed by observation.
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If you are young and your home country has medical insurance that covers HPV vaccination, get it while it’s free (because it costs 150 € a dose). If you’re rich enough, there may be a point in getting it later too, especially if you’ve not had unsafe sex (it doesn’t protect after infection). The majority of people get HPV during their lives and approximately 9 strains cause cervical cancer in women and raise the risk of prostate cancer in men. By getting vaccinated against HPV, you protect both yourself and your partners from drawing a ticket in a quite nasty lottery.
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As long as prostate cancer is androgen dependent, it can be suppressed with an androgen blockade.
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Countdown to Trump saying something deplorable. 10…9…8…
Damn, didn’t even get to finish the countdown.
Somehow I don’t think you are joking. 😢
I stomached looking at his truth social account so you don’t have to:
Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden’s recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.
I guess some pr person has his phone today. He’ll probably say something stupid in an interview later.
I checked the Conservative subreddit to see what their reaction was and it’s pretty sympathetic. This made me laugh though
As if this isn’t the most basic norm of the presidency?
Has any other president trashed an ex presidents diagnosis (or something similar)?
This almost made me puke:
Cancer doesn’t care about ideology, but it sure seems like one ideology in the US cares about giving you cancer and denying treatment for it.
If cancer could vote, it would vote Republican.
Yes. That’s a big reason why a democrat posting in r/conservative calling them classy and wonderful almost made me puke.
You are an angel! Yes it’s written by an educated and classy person. Not him.
Yeah. Turns out he posted on twitter last night, less than three hours from the OP’s countdown:
What I want to know is how did Dr. Jill Biden miss stage five metastatic cancer or is this yet another coverup???
I should note that there is no such thing as stage five cancer, only 1-4. And Jill Biden’s doctorate is in education.
I thought that was his son? Or did he retweet it?
Those were his words while retweeting something else.
Kinder response than half of Lemmy, even if he didn’t write it.
Yeah the comments ITT are pretty awful. I’m no fan of Biden, but some of the comments here are depraved.
Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.
Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.
Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion. He deserves much worse.
Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.
Agreed.
Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.
Agreed.
He deserves much worse.
Agreed.
Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion.
Hard disagree.
You can acknowledge that he’s an awful person while refraining from celebrating his misfortune.
If someone deserves punishment, celebrating that punishment is basically just hatred. I might want to get that looked at.
lol yup no way t wrote that himself.
Yeah, there is absolutely no way he wrote that!
fuck, i prayed for this but it hit the wrong president
Watch your aim dude!
Ugh, first that kid only getting his ear and now THIS?
do better
When they sending time travellers, they aren’t sending their best. 🤦♂️
This is why some religions point themselves before the praying starts.
Tbf, Trump’s health is shrouded in so much subterfuge that you could have gotten the right president but we just don’t know it.
I mean, given the fact that this affected Joe Biden up until this announcement, and no medical examiner announced it previously, it does seem plausible.
Naaa there are just two buttons and both of them can be pressed.
I would bungee jump on them.
biden is a scumbag, always has been pimp for lobbyist and aipac cancer. you murder kids for money this is what he should get and hopefully worse in afterlife.
Fuck these down voters.
No harm done
It should have happened to Trump. Not that Biden is a good guy, but it would be nice if Trump died of an ass related illness.
I’m not convinced Trump is healthy. I bet he has a plethora of health issues but the paid-off doctors aren’t releasing the information.
Anything is possible. Prostate cancer is far more common than most people realize…there is an easy to remember true statistic – 80% of all men over 80 have prostate cancer. That’s 4 out of 5. It very often tends to be so slow growing that it’s simply not an issue, really, you’ll have more pressing health concerns that will kill you first.
It’s good to check, then once it is identified, either dealt with or monitored with regular frequency.
It has already metastasized in his bones, so it’s much more aggressive than most prostate cancers. After metastasizing there, three 5-year survival rate is about 33% with a median survival time of 21 months. But it’s also very rare for it to have already spread elsewhere before being caught, so I’m assuming that means that this is even more aggressive than normal and that 21 months would be optimistic. But I’m not a medical professional, so I can’t say how valid this assumption is.
Do you think Trump will just be cheezing. Do you think that the cheeseburger king could keep his mouth shut about it? Or will he just be so tacky? We are such a trashy country. It’s so funny and scary.
Trump has already issued a generic sympathy statement, “Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden’s recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.”
yes, but for most of those men it’s a cancer they die with, rather than one they die from.
its slow growing from what ive heard, but biden had a aggressive type, which would be different, since aggressive types usually have different mutations and genetics compared to the “slow growing ones”. even with something like melanoma, there are more than one type: nodular, subungul,etc. some cancers can be indentified by the type of gene mutations they have thats specific to that cancer
Understood. Yeah my post was more of a PSA, baking general knowledge into people’s brains. Everybody freaks out when they hear the word “cancer”, and they should know…prostate cancer in old men is different. But this one is aggressive & mutating & it’s metastasized into the bones, etc.
I know it’s possible, but I also get the impression he’s going to outlive all of us somehow.
It’s that pesky top-of-the-line health care he has access to.
What if I stick my finger up my ass? Can I check it myself? Cause I just can’t afford the doctor bill. I heard about the guy that took out his own appendix. I feel like this is a little bit less invasive and a little kinky. What do you think?
Both of them are going to be on the elevator down when their time comes.
Their only chance is in making something nearly impossible happen so that their destination is frozen over when they get there.
ass related illness
Now there’s a phrasing…
Putting my hopes on infected hemorrhoids
He probably got a dirty ass.
With all the ass kissing his cabinet does, he’s sure to get something. Probably why he stays away from MTG these days.
“Yoav Galant is a pretty good guy.”
metastasis to the bone
Yeah, he’s not making it.
The guy’s also 82, so it’s not like he has a long road ahead of him regardless of this.
I’ve seen what chemo does to young, healthy people. Joe ain’t that.
While this represents a more aggressive form of the disease, the cancer appears to be hormone-sensitive which allows for effective management.
Feels like more of the same strategy of downplaying Biden’s symptoms. I bet when he dies they’ll deny it for a few days.
I don’t disagree that there is a strategy of downplaying not just Biden’s, but every politician’s health conditions.
I used to have this absolutely incredible writing professor, who, at 85, told us on the first day of class that he was dying, and had been for 4 years. He even had a blog about his reflections on mortality that he invited us to read. He had prostate cancer. I don’t remember the details, but they couldn’t operate to remove it or do chemo, but it was the kind that is hormone sensitive. They gave him a drug that destroyed his body’s ability to produce testosterone, so the cancer just stopped growing. He died at 90 - 9 years after his diagnosis. 10% extra life for him.
No two people and prognosis’ are alike but the possibility exists they might be telling the truth about managing it.
Some people just defy the odds sometimes, my grandpa was supposed to die 5 or 6 times before he finally did. Multiple times the doctors told us they could no longer do anything for him, only for him to recover and get into the same situation with another issue some years later.
He lived on borrowed time ever since my mom was born yet lived to see his first grand-grandchild born some 30+ years later.
Toward what end? I don’t think you’re thinking this through.
Evil conspiracy because of evil conspiracy, obviously.
Because his underlings have been downplaying his health issues for the last several years and that’s what they’re used to doing.
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the form is still hormone sensitive so its treatable, to an extent, obvious with metasis is lower, but prostate usually have good prognosis, but that depends other factors.
much like breast cancers that are hormone sensitive, they are treatable, the ones that triple negative or the rare IBC those are very aggressive and they are not affected by anti-hormone therapy.
I heard recently it’s incredibly common for men to get diagnosed with prostate cancer and then just die normally from something else. Likely the same happens with him
This is why after 60, I’m not going to try to be president. I’m retiring. Guy spent the last few good years he had stressed out running the country when he should’ve been playing bingo and sitting on a beach.
Thank goodness he lives in a country where the cancer hospitals haven’t been bombed out of existence with weapons funded by the United States under the leadership of Joe Biden.
Stage 4 cancer with metastasis? Not gonna make it. No amount of money or power can stop a dead man walking.
But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term. He probably won’t make it to the end of the current administration.
He won’t live long enough to see the major impact of slow rolling Trump’s arrest.
I wish cancer got the other guy, but I feel no sympathy for an old racist who betrayed various words and didn’t fight back against the fascist hard enough.
He’s 82, he’s not going to “make it” regardless
if you’re going with “regardless”, might as well add that none of us will "make it’. spoiler alert, we all die at the end.
I don’t believe you. /s
you’re joking, but there are people like Peter Thiel who throw money into transhumanist nonsense specifically because he thinks he’ll live forever thanks to that. cryonics, buckets of supplements, “enhanced games” as a non-FDA testing ground for immortality elixir for new emperor, and a couple of other things that i don’t remember right now, all because he’s so scared of dying
We don’t know that. It’s statistically likely, but it’s possible that due to advances in technology, the first person to cure aging is already alive today.
We’ve also been talking about curing it for years and it hasn’t happened, so maybe live your life like you’re dying and be pleasantly surprised if we cure it.
But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term.
Look at the average age of congress. Look at what Dianne Feinstein was doing at the end of her life. They don’t want power. It’s all automatic to them at this point. They don’t know now to do anything else then grab and hold as much power as possible without any reason or purpose.
If he won a second term and died then somebody other than Vance and Musk would be running the show, at least.
Even while dying he’s stilling participating in fundraising for the DNC.
He will be missed.
Yeah it seems fundraising is more important to the DNC than improving the country. But then again the people who pay big money to politics aren’t happy with a better country. That would mean less wealth for them and more dignity fir everyone else.
Well the DNC platform was about fucking over anybody with more a than a million dollars in stocks and they still managed to out finance the fascist party (as long as you don’t count buying out social media platforms and newspapers) so your comment seems really out of touch.
And yet none of that has ever happened regardless of how well the Dems do at the ballot box.
There it is! The reason people don’t trust the dems. Complete ignorance of actual policy and history.
It’s quite the opposite actually. Actual policy and history demonstrate that they absolutely do not follow through with their claims and promises. You seem to be ignorant of both of these while basing your opinion off the empty rhetoric they spout in the media.
Their most landmark legislation in the past 20 years was the ACA, which they passed when they held a supermajority in government and didn’t need any Republican support, and yet they decided to drop single-payer in order to pass a Republican healthcare plan that cemented the private insurance model into law while increasing government subsidies to insurance companies meaning even more of our tax dollars are funneled into executive and shareholder pockets while people are still struggling to afford skyrocketing healthcare costs. They didn’t need any Republican support (nor did they receive it) yet they still chose to screw the American people with this bill. How do you explain that?
They also just unanimously voted to pass an internet censorship bill along with all but two Republicans. Trump has stated that he will use this bill to silence his critics and every single Dem Representative voted in favor of it.
They also passed the Republican government spending bill which retroactively legalized all the illegal DOGE cuts they’d been making.
Maybe you should stop listening to the empty promises and virtue signaling and start looking at their actual actions. Modern Dems are to the right of Reagan even if they claim otherwise.
They had a 60 seat majority for like 8 months before Kennedy died. And as noted by other comments, one of those votes was a “no” if they tried to do any better.
But it was also partly a victim of Obama’s early policy of negotiating with himself to try and appear bipartisan. It took him too long to realize the GOP isn’t a good faith opposition party.
They held a supermajority WITH INDEPENDENT CAUCUS and one of those independents demanded they drop even the PUBLIC-OPTION version in order to pass any version of the bill.
Then the S.2073 bill you mentioned, it had 3 nay votes, 2 R and 1 D, and also 6 Not Voting 3 R and 3 D. It restricts very specific actions taken by companies targeting those of age 13 or younger, with a pretty massive list of exceptions. FULL TEXT HERE. It’s actually pretty cool, IMO, it bans data gathering of the children, infinite scrolling feeds, personalized recommendations, notifications, or in-game purchases in the context of platforms targeting children of age 13 or younger.
It is interesting that the medical examination before and during his presidency should have included cancer examination? I thought it is common practice to do a test every 2 years or so…
But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term.
That’s no mystery. If there were primaries, someone to his left might win them.
But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term. He probably won’t make it to the end of the current administration.
There are already conspiracy theories going around that he kept his medical issues (dementia, cancer, etc) a closely guarded secret whilst running for re-election.
As for why I think Biden wanted to run for a second term, my guess is that his plan was to stand down and effectively proxy the United States’ first female leader in that way. Harris would have otherwise been eviscerated in the primaries.
He won’t live long enough to see the major impact of slow rolling Trump’s arrest.
Dude, with the way Trump is handling things, the 2026 midterms and 2028 presidential elections are going to be about as Fair and Balanced™ as a Fox News broadcast.
Be kind, please.
They were being kind.
These types of people are not really kind to poor brown Arabs. Go watch like cartoons or something.
So kind. I kindly ask him to die and rest in piss.
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Wishing him all the best. I have seen quite a few men die to that disease (no one dies of prostate cancer but it spreads really fast and to really bad places).
Good luck Biden.
What are these comments? You people are vile.
What I find so annoying is how there are so many people (outside of this platform) who are just shocked and devastated about this news. I am over here like…the man is in his eighties. He is an elderly man. We should not be that surprised about some illness popping up at that age.
With all the best doctors the presidents have, they discover it only at the fourth stage?
I’m a lowly peasant and my work let me do a yearly blood+pee test, I assumed that for presidents it would be something like a weekly checkup
It’s likely that they knew a long time ago but they are just now announcing it. This would probably also explain why he was so mentally foggy or, seeming like he had dementia. Many cancer drug drugs can do that toyou.
If that’s the case he was even more wrong about running than everyone assumed.
Somebody had to step up and save us from Bernie Sanders
Not even a funny joke.
When all the joy in life is gone, I’ll take any joke that eeks just a little bit of dopamine out of my brain.
… yeah, I feel that bud.
I’d assume that played a huge role in him choosing to step down.
So glad he wanted to run for a second term then, especially after promising to be a one term president. /sarcasm
He never promised. We lost when he won the 2020 primary
I mean, Biden is quoted as calling it a campaign promise.
Which is is less binding than a pinky promise, but in 2024, he at least saw that he had made the commitment in 2020. Plenty of people in 2024 then were also incorrectly saying that Biden didn’t make that promise.
I remember the promise and I also remember thinking “why the fuck are you even running if you won’t for a second term”
Exactly; it was always a lie that couldn’t be taken seriously
Compared to Trump winning? Which was the only viable other option during that term.
Viable!?! Given Biden only really won because of Covid, I think Bernie would’ve actually had a shot in the general, especially in energizing the base and working class. Warren could’ve also stood a better chance, even if she might not have done as great of a job in office.
Biden was the worst choice, I thought Buttigieg, Klobuchar, and especially Harris in 2020 were far better, but the capitalist elites wanted a weak old man, so we got Biden, dooming us for 2024 because there was no way he’d be selfless enough to step aside. He might’ve said he’d be one term, but he was lying and that’s why no one took him seriously.
This was exactly my first thought.
And if so, that’s a double “fuck you” to Joe and everyone on his staff trying to keep this shit under wraps.
He should have just resigned the goddamn Presidency when he was first diagnosed JFC
Yeah if he was incapacitated because of drugs he should have let Kamala take over.
he had covid, at that time too.
That makes it worse not better…
cancers can grow very quickly in the short amount of time, only takes weeks for a tumor to grow large suddenly if its an aggressive type. also many cancers, like melanoma can spread with a small tumor extremely fast. the staging depends on how much its spread, and also by the biopsy how much it infilitrated the layers of tissues.
It could have developed between regular prostate
massagesexams.
It’s going to be interesting to see how Trump will handle that state funeral
“Interesting” is a kind way to put that he’s going to be horrific and make it all about himself.
“Put his body in a tank for my parade.”
It would be kind of great if something were to steal the show on parade day.
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Lol
He’ll overshadow it with another military parade
Kinda wish this happened on like January 1, 2024, we might’ve had an open Democratic Primary and potentially averted fascism.
Would have changed nothing.
The left would have cried that whoever wasn’t X enough, the right would have rallied around the Second Coming of their True Messiah.
The Russian playbook is now well-tuned to its audience, our morons.
When will the left learn that the president has to be pro genocide and have no plan to ease the upcoming financial suffering of young people. The left simply wants too much
When will the left learn that not voting against literal fascists leads to literal fascism where you can’t say shit about genocide without being sent to El Salvador?
Liberals need to learn that voting for do-nothing-democrats lead to worsening conditions for the country’s poor which strengthens the base for fascist support.
Sending billions in weapons to an ethnostate committing genocide counts as fascist. There was no voting against fascism in the last election.
You’re never going to be allowed to vote against this regime. You need to do something else.
The real problem was the Democratic party making tactically poor move after tactically poor move. They were too obsessed with imperial support of Israel to do the right thing for US interests and the voters. They were too “anti-communist” to consider not banning TikTok and alienating younger voters. They were willing to cede the narrative to the right constantly. They refused to give the left any progressive policy goals to chew on despite us yelling about how much all of this would fuck with turnout.
For the past 2 years, they thought corporate ads and ultraconservative libs would win the election, when that wasn’t what helped them in the midterms, hasn’t been the playbook in decades, and was just what let them hang out with their “good ole Republican friends” who they really wish they could ally with like in the 90s. It was a load of interpersonal bullshit, purposefully engineered by the ruling class to ensure the Democratic leadership would never sacrifice capitalism for liberal democracy’s sake.
I’m tired and disgusted of this “blame the left” narrative, especially since plenty of liberals could tell that this was the Democrat’s biggest issue for quite a while. They never did anything to address it because the fix wasn’t easy. They went with the easy solution and expected voters to pick up the slack. That’s not how electoral politics works; Lazy, irresponsible bastards
The last time I voted and did what the liberal told me to do. I elected a president who committed genocide. This whole back and forth with this is just very frustrating because if you really break it all down how the United States is set up, how our electoral processes work, I mean the power of the executive branch nowadays we’re not really a democracy. Corporations have captured our government. There’s this lady who is a exCIA analyst and she has a book called How Civil War Start and How to Stop Them. Her name is Barbara Walters. She refers to the United States as not a democracy. She is more successful and smarter than me and you.
Joe didn’t commit genocide, but he did provide the ability and protection for the genociders, which is honestly worse in some ways. America wasn’t a proper democracy; mostly a liberal empire where people have no say beyond if they get burnt, or thrown into hell.
The local level was where we could’ve built democracy this entire time, but building up that way for the long game is difficult and wouldn’t have delivered the material changes very quickly. The executive was ensured it would become a dictatorship because the legislature was so incapable of doing basic maintenance thanks to the ever increasing push by the right to achieve anarcho-capitalism at the cost of the very empire that gave liberalism its power.
The capitalists were a bunch of gremlins in an imperial machine who didn’t know how good they had it. Some get to do what they want now, but they’re losing more power than they realize, as now America won’t be the big bad empire it was when they started. Many have assumed it’s capitalism that’s the monolithic evil of history, but if you really look at the realities of the past, if you really look at the realities of America and the USSR, you’ll realize that capitalism was always but a minor force. Empires are the greatest evil in human history, not that Capitalism is better, but it just can’t reach the same level.
this is exactly the garbage a israeli or superpac bot will say. why does the blue maga never whine about ultrarich and aipac ? they influence our elections a million times more than anything else. warren was going to be vp and would have been president today if superpacs wouldn’t have forced their puppet harris on us who got destroyed in the primaries. and aipac, lol we all know saying anything other than israel is the true messiah is the death of any politician carrier or even an actual death.
Oh right I almost forgot that the standard for president of the United States means not fucking everything up, not acturally doing anything good. Forgive me for expecting anything from the corrupt corporate elites or the superpacs that fund them. Im sure another four years of incompetent Democratic rule where they do absolutely nothing will really convince the American people not to vote far right. It worked for Carter, Clinton, Obama and Biden.
The American public is pretty stupid. I’ll give you that. But I think we also give too much credit to Russia. All capitalist countries Fuck with elections. But I think it’s the politicians that pay Russian elements to do their nefarious operations. The world of computer hacking is a mixture of supposed good guys and criminals. It’s a great market and the people that have the most access to this is people with money and who have power. The lines are truly blurred.
No, everything bad that happens in the US is the fault of Russia. They are the most powerful country on Earth and the puppet masters control everything behind the scenes!
Do you think you’re blameless? Do you think you’re innocent?
Do you?
Yep but who are they going to bring in? Another Democrat puppet
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