Oprah.
That cunt gave the anti vaccine idiots a platform and two charlatans a stage.
Fuck Oprah, fuck “dr.” Phil and especially fuck dr. Oz!
Oh and The Apprentice
She has such a bullshit rags to riches story that immediately falls apart because she’s a class traitor. She gave Oz a platform which has a direct through line to people like RFK/Joe Rogan. I’d argue she had a direct hand in the large movement of housewives that don’t believe in western medicine because she sells snake oil just like Oz and Phil.
she was just jerry springer for liberals
plus she wasnt she predator adjacent?
certainly looks like it, probably had a qouta to meet
Oprah was always shit for losers
Cops. To see how they just pummel people to the ground or pull their guns for the smallest of things is unsettling to watch. Also, the treatment of female officers.
The one that always stuck with me was when they harassed a dude just walking down the street because he was in drag. But it was in, like, Plano, TX or something so that made it “suspicious.”
Another one I can’t remember was on COPS or just some bodycam footage of a gay teen who was beaten by his parents and kicked out getting arrested becsuse they claimed he assaulted them; despite being the only one completely battered and bruised and the neighbors defending the kid having witnessed him getting beaten by his father.
I guess when I responded to the original question, I was thinking about the 2000’s era COPS show and how it seemed to celebrate violence against others. So, by current standards, the old episodes really don’t hold up well in that it’s really not OK to be promoting this.
I’ve noticed similar changes to other police drama shows, like NCIS vs something like Tracker. In NCIS, the bad guy is usually taken down in a shootout. In newer shows, like Tracker, most of the time the bad guy is arrested. Hopefully this is a reflection on society changing.
A ton of COPS was filmed in pierce county Washington, where I grew up, I still think about how that undoubtedly changed my life in likely imperceptible ways to this day
The progression of COPS was really wild. It technically started in 1989 but the early episodes were a pretty far departure from the version you’re correctly calling out. They were a lot more visceral - I remember one episode where the officers showed up to a suicide. The guy used a shotgun in a pickup truck and the back windshield was blown out with blood and brains like dripping from it, and this is what the cameraman zooms in on for a solid 30 seconds.
It was just a lot more gritty and unrefined. That’s the interesting part for me, this show changed to the version you described where they only showed DV and beating up crackheads. They chose that; they went in that direction on purpose.
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And now, girls jumping on trampolines
aged? i hated it then. i guess I’m just glad more of society has caught up.
Scrolling through this, a few thoughts come to mind:
- I forgot how deep into the decade Friends went, and it was definitely well past its sell-by date several seasons before it ended.
- Will & Grace probably best fits as a show that aged poorly, though it was groundbreaking in putting gay characters front and center at all.
- As shows that won’t be remembered as fondly because they’re cringey relics of their era, it’s a dead heat between Sex and the City and Entourage. Entourage is worse, but I think contemporary viewers already knew that.
- Honorable mention to Joss Whedon and Ricky Gervais personally making their classic shows a lot harder to enjoy.
I forgot why I must hate Ricky Gervais.
I started to really dislike him when I saw the special features on Extras and he led the charge being a complete piece shit to some production assistant.
To Stephen or to Karl? Are we okay with the idea that UK pisstakes are a little more harsh than our delicate American ears are accustomed to?
I don’t remember that level of detail and it is possible there’s some context I missed. But it really came across as the show’s A-lister bullying some kid who would be out on his ass if he tried to stand up for himself and it didn’t sit right with me.
Ashley Jensen did step in at one point and help the guy out, so I liked her
I thinl he is funny but some people don’t like the fact that he is no pc
Some friend and I were discussing how poorly 24 has aged, but also how different the world views its subject matter now.
24 was insanely good when it was a new thing and then quickly devolved into “wait, you’re torturing a teenager on a hunch and that’s okay?”. Not worth the rewatch.
Loved it as a kid and now see it as propaganda to normalize government surveillance
My favorite part of that is when he has to drive across the city. It would be like an entire episode of him sitting in traffic. They neglect it entirely.
How fast he travels is what killed the show for me. It’s been quite a while, but I seem to remember him traveling across the country/world multiple times in a 24 hour span.
Most everything in 24 could be solved with a text message. Later seasons they had to get creative just to explain why cell phones were out of the picture.
I tried rewatching How I Met Your Mother and couldn’t get more than a few episodes in because I was so bored. I’m sure my getting older is partly to blame (not as engaged by the unrealistic exploits of some mid 20-somethings), but also Friends-style comedy feels outdated now.
How I Met Your Mother is such a strange combination Aughts tropes. I mean its Friends but everyone pretty quickly becomes not good people like Seinfeld. It’s a sitcom but it’s also a puzzle box mystery like Lost. The lead, Josh Radnor, is an obvious Timu version of Zac Braff.
And yet it was huge at the time. Ran for nine seasons, completely reignited Neil Patrick Harris’s career, second staged Jason Segel in to not just that guy from Freaks and Geeks, but a legit movie star. Broke open Cobie Smulders in to another movie star. And yet it’s almost completely forgotten about. Until you mentioned it I think it’s more then one or two times on Lemmy, you never see gifs or memes from it. It’s like it was completely forgotten for our shared cultural landscape almost as soon as it was over. I think the only thing it was remembered for was how bad they fucked up the ending and Game of Thrones has taken that from them even.Weirdly, though, Friends seems to hold up better.
Despite being much older, I recall walking through a room where a friend’s roommates were watching Friends around 2016. I was stuck by two things:
First, that I’d noticed that a bunch of people seemed to be getting into Friends for the first time. I think it had just come to Netflix, and in addition to folks nostalgia watching, Gen z and younger millennials were discovering it. Which was why it was on.
Second, it was really watchable. I immediately paused to join them, and the jokes were landing. It had been a very long time since I’d watched a show with a laugh track, but it worked. The show was solidly entertaining.
Friends probably holds up better because the Barney character just doesn’t work today. So much of his humour is just cringe. Friends’ PG-quality ironically makes it more suitable since there are no characters reveling in sexual assault.
Yeah Friends is just a better show I’m sure. It definitely had a deeper bench on screen. Lisa Kudro is probably the best ‘dumb blonde’ of the last 30 years and that kind of part isn’t easy. Cortney Cox and Matthew Perry were really good comic actors and David Schwimmer is good actor if not a good comic actor. And Jenn Aniston and Matt LeBlanc sure were good looking.
Put that up against any other cast in any other sitcom and I think you’d have to go back to I Love Lucy to find a better one.
Are we living through the same maddening decline of civilization? I’ve both seen and posted this absurdity numerous times on Lemmy…
I tried watching it for the first time like 5 years ago because of all the memes and to understand why people kept mentioning it and I couldn’t last one episode.
The ‘you’re fired’ show starring donny dump.
Anything with a laugh track
Watching Friends without the laugh track Is fucking surreal. There’s so much dead time. So many frames of actors just staring at each other lol
Married with Children is really hilarious for this because the live audience would just go nuts when the main cast would first appear in an episode. Especially Ed O’Neil and Christina Applegate. So many scenes where they come through a door and then just stand there for 30+ seconds holding a pose and making cute faces.
If you mute the sound of the laughter, you also need to delete the long awkward pauses that creates.
If there was a live audience that makes more acceptable for me, I just think of it like a stage play.
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autistic son who is a savant and they talk about hopefully finding a cure for autism someday
Dude this is the most nails on chalkboard trope of TV. I can’t stand the autistic savant trope
I’ve tried to re-watch Sex and the City but its impossible. I loved it back in the day.
Also the West Wing - I’m sure its still good but the current state of politics makes it look like satire.
The West Wing is a fantasy show about how you wish politics worked. Then we got Veep, which is how we thought politics really worked. Now we realize Veep was also a fantasy.
Veep still holds.
It ends with
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___the VP being a racist idiot promoting Christian math vs. the bad Muslim one who’s married his own sister. The president gets elected by giving Tibet back to China and banning same-sex marriage. The last thing we hear from her is “Shalom, David! So what did the Palestinians do this time?”. I mean… can it be any more perfect?
Not quite 2000s rather early 2010s, but House of Cards has to be up there.
The 1990 House of Cards is the one that deserves to be remembered.
House, MD is a top contender.
A lot of his edgy jokes were made in a time where being politically incorrect was daring and spicy, but now it just makes him come across as a bigot
But he is a bigot. And an asshole. I’ve never felt like the series was trying to represent House as a role model. He gets the consequences of his behaviour all the time, but never learns. People keep him around because he’s good at his job, and that’s it. Otherwise everyone gets tired of his shit real quick.
I think they put the focus on everything that wasn’t the premises of the show. I remember reading that they changed the plot because they test audience didn’t like that well they got sick and they ded.
Nah, watched it only a year or two ago and it’s a mediocre show. Nothing terrible.
Glee has gotta be up there right?
I dunno… Glee established itself from episode 1 to be about terrible people doing and saying terrible things. I think they hold true to that premise even moreso today.
Big Bang Theory on the other hand kept pretending their protagonist was a good person just doing “geeky” things. That aged poorly for sure.
Big Bang Theory rapidly became a show about making fun of geeks and nerds
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I feel like That 70’s Show would apply here… maybe not as poorly aged as some of the others mentioned but definitely in the running
I can confirm I re watched it two years ago
