Windows Recall remains controversial a year after its announcement. Now, the Brave browser has taken new measures to "protect" users from the feature.
  • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    814·
    7 days ago

    Brave browser blocks Windows feature that takes screenshots of everything you do on your PC

    As does Linux.

  • blobchoice@feddit.ukEnglish
    985·
    7 days ago

    Unfortunately that would involve using the Brave browser, which is an antifeature in itself.

      • Electricd@lemmybefree.netEnglish
        715·
        6 days ago

        They shit on it because just like Mozilla, they made some shit decision by making some shady partnerships, and because the CEO is transphobic/homophobic/can’t remember

        Apart from the usual bullshit and antifeatures it has, it’s still a great browser choice, just like Firefox

        • Alaknár@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          141·
          6 days ago

          “Just like Mozilla”.

          Let’s compare.

          Mozilla: installed a closed-source plugin once, and then apologised for it.

          Brave CEO: actively supports homophobic organisations, donates money to them, injects affiliate links to stores, whenever given a microphone will say something bigoted and homophobic.

          Yeah, it’s totally the same exact issue with both browsers!

          • Electricd@lemmybefree.netEnglish
            36·
            6 days ago

            Brave: injected affiliate links once, then apologised for it too. Developped a search engine to be less dependent on big companies

            Mozilla is spending money like crazy, just like Wikipedia, has little to no democratic system which makes people fork the stuff they make, and prefer to use the money from donation to buy trips all over the world to educate about privacy and shit while they proceed to keep adding more telemetry and BS in firefox

            They also make it close to impossible to install plugins outside their plugins website, which I’ve heard has some strict rules and take a lot of time to approve stuff. Closed garden bullshit again

        • Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pubEnglish
          7·
          6 days ago

          I just think the idea of your alternative being partially coded by the company you’re attempting to avoid is a little stupid. I don’t give a shit who he is. I barely give a shit who runs Mozilla.

          Brave and every other Chromium fork are at the mercy of Google to exist as an alternative to Google, which to me, defeats the point. Every bit of their effort would be better spent rolling their money over to donate to browser development rather than band-aids.

          • Electricd@lemmybefree.netEnglish
            1·
            2 days ago

            Tradeoffs have to be made. Android is an example of that…

            Chromium can be worked on by anyone, it’s just that it’s too costly to do

      • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        151·
        6 days ago

        An unrepentant homophobe who accused people who dislike him for his homophobic views/actions as being closed-minded and bigoted for disliking him over it.

        You can’t make this shit up

    • Electricd@lemmybefree.netEnglish
      710·
      6 days ago

      It’s probably the best chromium browser out there

      Firefox has done shit too

      sadly we don’t have a lot of choice, but they’re one of the least worse

      • kadu@lemmy.worldEnglish
        181·
        6 days ago

        Firefox has done shit too

        Firefox has injected my URLs with affiliate codes?

      • Leon@pawb.socialEnglish
        13·
        6 days ago

        Just don’t use Chromium unless you for some reason absolutely have to. Mozilla is just another corporation, but they’re not exactly threatening to monopolise the internet. Google is, and using Chromium directly aids in their effort to do so.

        • Electricd@lemmybefree.netEnglish
          29·
          6 days ago

          It’s not that bad. Sure, having more choice is good, but it’s not as life threatening as you make it seem

          Using android and stock ROMs is a bigger problem

          • Leon@pawb.socialEnglish
            8·
            6 days ago

            I think it’s a compounding issue, primarily of Google products just kind of being the “default.”

            Google pays to be the primary search engine in Firefox, on iOS, and sets themselves as the default on their operating systems. They, wherever possible also set their browser as default. Yes, Chromium is open source, but they have the ultimate final say, and no one seems to have the interest in forking it. This puts Google in a similar position that Microsoft was in in the 90s and early 00s, where they can essentially hijack the web and force their ideas through whether others want to or not.

            We saw this with Google forcing Manifest v3, all Chromium-based browsers essentially just had to follow suit. That was just Manifest v3 however, who’s to say what else they’ll do?

            Then there’s my tinfoil hat worry that Google essentially being the window to the web for so many people, on an OS, browser, and discoverability level is just overall a cause for worry. That’s not even considering their communications and media platforms.

            • Electricd@lemmybefree.netEnglish
              61·
              6 days ago

              I’m pretty sure if Firefox/Mozilla decides to change their policy on something, most forks of firefox will have no choice but follow the same path

              afaik all firefox forks are really small, just like chromium forks

              Mozilla might not have as much conflicting interests though, I admit it

              • Petter1@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
                5·
                6 days ago

                Perfect is the enemy of good.

                Gecko is still way more sympathetic than chromium, to me. Even if it is not perfect either.

              • Leon@pawb.socialEnglish
                6·
                6 days ago

                Oh yeah, absolutely. There are no good options for a truly libre web, unfortunately. :(

      • rozodru@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        5 days ago

        sure there are choices. I don’t use either. if you believe there are only 2 choices out there…man you have no idea.

  • flop_leash_973@lemmy.worldEnglish
    37·
    6 days ago

    Let me know when it is discovered that they in fact replaced MS Recall with their own version that was scraping your data in yet another sketchy attempt to make money.

  • SpaceScotsman@startrek.websiteEnglish
    71·
    7 days ago

    They haven’t blocked the windows feature, they’re using DRM to interfere with it. Microsoft could easily change how the DRM works any time they want, rendering all these hacks useless.

    • thevoidzero@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      6 days ago

      Exactly, how do you even fight with the OS except just making it bit hard for them lol. You have to tell the OS what pixels to put in the screen, there’s literally no way you can hide things from the OS if they want to know.

    • moe90@feddit.nlOPEnglish
      511·
      7 days ago

      then people can complained it on Brave Github or their official forum and it will be fixed by their team

      • SpaceScotsman@startrek.websiteEnglish
        181·
        7 days ago

        My point was that brave’s solution, like Signal’s, is dependent on microsoft playing fair. If microsoft decides they don’t want brave, signal, or anyone else using DRM to interfere with their screen scraping chatbot, there is not going to be an easy way to fix it.

        • Womble@lemmy.worldEnglish
          7·
          6 days ago

          No way they’d do that though, because then they’d have the mouse and the other members of the content mafia breathing down their necks.

          • redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            2·
            6 days ago

            It’s an image every few seconds. Not that piracy is currently even interested in tech that reencodes the content.
            And for training, copyrighted stuff is already everywhere; AI tools seem to be limited on the output side rather than raw training data.

            • Womble@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              6 days ago

              Sure it wouldnt be rational to care about DRM being broken a small amount allowing limited amount of copyright material to be copied.

              What do you think their response would be?

  • sfjvvssss@lemmy.worldEnglish
    351·
    6 days ago

    In this thread something I see a lot on lemmy is happening. Maybe someone can give me a hint on how that happens. The post itself is 90% upvotes, while the comment section is really anti-Brave (for good reasons). Do most upvotes come from people scrolling through without looking at the comment section and those with an opinion on the topic dive into it?

  • 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.comEnglish
    131·
    6 days ago

    Now whilst I enjoy all the comments I actually have to add something quickly that explains why this kind of thing happens. I recently worked with a rather old lady to find out why she was having so many issues with technology and stuff. I found out that when she started work in 1986 she was told that the shared password in her department at the local hospital was “password” and so she has used that on everything she can since to remember it… other gems that they used on whole departments included “qwerty” and “123456” and the best one of all “letmeinnow”. On whole shared networks of 100+ machines…