ADHD is the true anarchist spirit.
oof, only propaganda i remember from school in finland was about milk consumption(in favour). they even put posters about it to classrooms. I suppose it didnt bite into me that hard since i often forget to use milk carton before it rots and dont even buy milk that often because of it.
See also: aphantasia!
Not visualizing myself with or for a product has likely helped a ton.
Our highschool finance teacher would randomly stop the class to ralk about how communism killed more people than Nazis because of North Korea.
He was normally a basketball coach but teacher shortage I guess? Weird experience overall. He would try arguing with students not standing up to the pledge too.
got expelled for not showing up. showed me how to work the system
Same with Autism, I will hyperfixate Rome, the Soviet Union, and Nazi Germany and I will call out the similarities between them and the United States. I also got into a verbal fight with some kid in middle school because I wasn’t going to play nice with his creationism BS unlike the teacher who danced around it, the only reason he didn’t attack me was because I would probably throw him around like a ragdoll.
Joke’s on me; I totally locked in on that shit and even made some pro-propaganda student films!
Few things teach you humility like a friend finally breaking through to you and shattering your glass bubble of misinformation. Especially when your personality and morals are completely at odds with your foundational beliefs that were built up by authority figures. I was that kid who would hang out with unhoused people and try to help them with shit because everybody deserves a friend, but I wouldn’t give them money because I was taught that poor people don’t know how to manage their money or spend it all on drugs.
My 3rd grader informed us in 1st grade that he opted to not participate in the pledge of allegiance (does so respectfully) because we have discussed how the US doesn’t take care of people (his words). He was even more frustrated when a substitute kept going on about how we’re the greatest country in the world and have all these freedoms.
I stopped saying the Pledge of Allegiance because I was hyperfixated on the Eragon books and it seemed too similar to swearing loyalty to Galbatorix.
Same, except I read Stargirl by Jerry Spinelli. She seemed to have the right idea about a lot of things. Eragon definitely solidified it.
I had forgotten about that, it was such a surreal book.
it’s literal brainwashing. Americans laugh at the NK people having to praise Dear Daddy, but then every morning in school, they cite the pledge of allegiance. Why would you want to be allied with one of the worst countries in modern history? Fuck that.
What happens in North Korea if they refuse to do something like the pledge?
What happens in America tomorrow if we refuse to say the pledge?
Tomorrow? Like Monday? Nothing happens if kids refuse to say the pledge of allegiance in America on Monday. They just don’t say it.
There’s always tomorrow.
You’re pretending that America can’t be turned into a place with similarities to N. Korea, when the wealthy and powerful are clearly trying to steer us that direction. Yes, it’s perfectly valid to draw such comparisons, especially when we are using them as a warning for ourselves.
You’re pretending I’m pretending that. Don’t be that guy.
That depends entirely on state and even on individual teachers in those states
Honestly? Mission accomplished
God it’s funny when your brain not working right accidentally prevents certain issues. I’m immune to getting addicted to MMOs, my brain can’t handle the slow dopamine distribution.
To be fair , MMOs aren’t fun because of gameplay, they are fun because of the social aspects.
which ironically have diminished greatly in mmos
Yeah the golden era of MMOs was ~2007. It’s been getting worse since then.
at least there are still some gems appearing occasionally; project gorgon for one in my opinion at least. gloria victis was/is also pretty decent, star citizen is mixed opinion for me, but definitely above wow or other generic mmo games.
A friend of mine got me to play an MMO a ling time ago, made it 30 minuts, fuck was it boring.
Unless it’s RuneScape, which offers a wealth of extremely repetitive tasks!
Working harder and grinding more should mean more levels and cool gear faster.
In reality, the harder you work the slower the dopamine, and then I dip.
When I was in the third grade, I had a teacher tell me it was okay we pushed the natives off the land because we made more efficient use of it, and could therefore carry a greater population.
In the previous grade the teacher passed around a worksheet, and we had to choose which jobs were most suited to what gender.
Oh what a glorious whitebread bublefuck town I grew up in!
What the hell? Didn’t that teacher got fired or anything?
Lol that teacher was pretty much par for the course as far as rural 90’s education goes.
Fuck no. Teachers are in such short supply that they aren’t looking for reasons to fire them, just pay them less.
Besides, every state creates their own curriculum. It’s possible that’s the state’s official take on the Native American Genocide. After all, for over 150 years, southern schools have been teaching that the Civil War wasn’t about slavery, it was about the states rights to decide their own fates, without interference from the aggressive north. They teach this despite the evidence of their own state constitutions of the era, which all mention the protection of slavery right at the beginning, as well as the Confederate “Declaration of Independence,” which puts the blame squarely on Slavery. They’ve spent 150 years OFFICIALLY teaching an alternative lie.
So that Native America explanation might well be an official government position in your state.
My favorite thing to point to when someone says the civil war was about states rights is to point out the fugitive slave act. They didn’t want the federal government to get involved in slavery unless it was in their favor .
“Sure it was about State’s Rights. The States Rights to own slaves.”
That’s the truth, and it’s literally in their State Constitutions. If someone is spewing that nonsense, Google it, and read it to them, because they probably can’t read.
Most likely that teacher is the wife of the pastor or sister of the mayor or some shit and thus invulnerable
My second grade teacher taught us the civil war was because of a disagreement over state’s rights.
The same teacher marked me and a few other students down for completing a subtraction assignment using negative numbers. She explained we were supposed to be confused and write that we couldn’t do it.
Edit: I forgot one! My third grade teacher marked me down for not knowing how much a hen weighed. It wasn’t a joke. Apparently there was a rule of thumb for estimating chicken weight. Any kids who weren’t raised on a farm missed the question.
She explained we were supposed to be confused and write that we couldn’t do it.
That is astonishing.
The most incredible case of teacher malpractice I’ve ever heard of, came from my son. He was in college, taking a film class, which is my son’s expertise. He’s a deep film guy, for real. He could literally teach it, so he doesn’t tolerate nonsense from bad film teachers.
So this teacher showed a clip of The Color Purple, and proceeded to criticize all of Stephen Spielberg’s artistic choices, painting him as a hack. Spielberg isn’t my son’s favorite director, but he respects his talent. He doesn’t believe that Spielberg is a hack.
But a stupid conclusion wasn’t the problem. The problem was that the clip the teacher used to illustrate Spielberg’s poor directing, was taken from the terrible remake of it, which wasn’t directed by Spielberg. The teacher criticized Spielberg, using a movie Spielberg hadn’t directed. And it turned out that the teacher hadn’t known there were two versions of The Color Purple, nor that there was a musical, either.
This was in a COLLEGE film class. My son was disgusted, and I thought it was unforgivable, and told him to report the incident, but he didn’t. He just pledged to never waste another course on that professor.
we were supposed to be confused and write that we couldn’t do it.
Is this a US specific thing? In our schools, they taught us stuff, then took a test to see how much of it got inside our head. I can’t imagine a test having a question about a topic which is not taught yet. It feels like straight up bullying by the system. We send kids to school to learn things, not to get bullied for not knowing things they haven’t even been taught yet.
I was raised in an exceedingly rural area of an already rural state. My school district was rated amongst the worst in the nation, so my experience was more indicative of the worst 1980s US had to offer. It was bad then, but not usually that bad.
I remember in 7th grade social studies (on the edge of the SF bay area in the 90s for crab godssake) we had to do a little assignment where we made up pros and cons of slavery.
the pros i made up were absolute bullshit “uh maybe the technology was better in the states than africa so even with slavery quality of life improved? that doesn’t sound right but maybe i don’t know” racist fucking ass shit turd bull fuck assignment.
sorry i’m like 10 years behind on my swears i got some catching up to do
I’m sorry, I’m really sorry, but pros to slavery?? jfc.
I think what kids were supposed to write was about all the shareholder value that was beautifully created by extorting everything from everyone they could reach
yeah like can you help me think up some swears i’m really tired comrade
Jizztrap. Fuck-wit, -stick, -stain. Frozen tampon popsicle Barbara Streisand!
my mom didn’t want me playing pokemon because it “taught evolution”
This idea made it to the netherlands as well
Same, lol
Its weird cuz evolution in Pokemon is more akin to metamorposes or even just basic puberty except theres sometimes 1 extra step XD
this was not lost on little ol gradeschool me
How fun would it be to have an entirely breeding focused game of Pokemon that was about evolution, though? You want an ivysaur? Selectively breed these bulbasaurs that kind of look more like an ivysaur!
Pal world was kinda like that. Might be worth checking out. I had fun with it
The concept of “fun” has been trademarked by the Nintendo corporation. Your trial will being soon.
You’re trial will being soon!
~fucking calling me names…~
I feel bad that I wore the free D.A.R.E. propaganda shirts in school because my family was too poor to get me decent clothing.
Drugs ARE Really Expensive, though. So, is it propaganda, or truth in advertising…? 🤔
I know a lot of adults that wore them ironically, so maybe you were just ahead of your time.
Naw. Wear that shit with pride, then take a Snoop-level rip from a bong.
Don’t feel bad for doing it out of necessity.
Nah, they gave you free clothes. 🙂
Don’t.
Just think of it as cop-averting camo.
So that’s why my fifth grade teacher hated me. Because I was too smart for her lazy bullshit lessons. 😂
Did anyone else ace the assignments without paying any attention to the lectures?
Constantly in highschool. If you count a lazy 85% without really lifting a finger as “acing,” that is.
Yeah. It’s one of the reasons I wasn’t diagnosed until my 30s.
In 8th grade i would spend a lot of class on my phone by hiding it in my desk. I was still one of the only people to regularly participate in class and was a straight A student until uni.
There was one instance where another srudent ratted me out for using my phone. He had tried to rat me out multiple times before but i usually stuck it in a book or folder. This time he called me out for doing so, so the teacher ended up taking my phone. School policy was that she would have to turn it over to the principal and my parents would have to pick it up. The teacher was a 60+ year old former nun and I had strict parents so i was not looking forward to it. When we went out to lunch the teacher called me over and told me to wait for a second. She handed me my phone back and told me not to get caught again.
She never checked my desk for my phone again and I continued to be one of the only people who raised my hand.
Aw what a nice teacher! I was in school way before smart phones came out. I definitely would have used one during class. 😂
It was a small Catholic school in a big city and the student population was a majority middle-class white kids; that is to say that despite being the weird nerdy queer brown kid I was one of the best behaved, had some of the best grades, consistently output high quality work (even when bullshitting it), and participated in all my classes including religion despite being an outspoken atheist. Most of my teachers loved me and gave me a lot of leniency because even at my worst I was still leagues ahead typically. It also helped that my mom was very involved and made it known if i was causing trouble that they could call her and she’d sort it out quickly, so if i ever was actually out of line they knew it wouldn’t last long.
Yeah, they repeated so much to the normies I never did any studying and only barely paid attention in class and aced all the tests. Then I went to college where I might have a class every other days and realized I had no idea how to study. doh.
Most propaganda is aimed at neurotypical wiring. We are out of tune with it, that gives us a measure of protection.
It’s one of the worries I have with AI. While I think we are more protected from propaganda than most (since we constantly want to poke at the crack in a story), we are not immune. It’s perfectly possible to shape it to effect us. They just haven’t bothered, since we are a small target. AI makes that a lot easier to do, so we will see more of it.
considering how certain people seem to get to the point of psychosis from llm usage, i dread the day the corporations start utilizing this fully. it would probably be possible to completely brainwash someone vulnerable to do ANYTHING with llm as long as they are receptive to it.
I’m not trying to talk down or condescend, so please accept this at the face value it is intended with: I suggest it’s critical thinking that’s saved you.
