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RandAlThor@lemmy.ca to News@lemmy.world · 1 day ago

Judge tosses Trump's $15B defamation suit against New York Times, Penguin Random House

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Judge tosses Trump's $15B defamation suit against New York Times, Penguin Random House

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RandAlThor@lemmy.ca to News@lemmy.world · 1 day ago
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A judge has tossed President Trump's $15 billion defamation lawsuit against The New York Times and Penguin Random House, and gave Trump's lawyers 28 days to refile.
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    The paint of the suit was the damage caused by it. Not winning.

  • RandAlThor@lemmy.caOP
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    It is scary that the last line of defense against authoritarianism is the judicial system.

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      It’s always been the judicial system. In Nazi Germany, the courts were incredibly close to blocking the concentration camps. If they had, we’d have had a very different history

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        Good thing conservatives haven’t packed the courts. Oh wait.

    • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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      Yep, because the Tribunal of Six is the final (legal) court of appeal in the country.

      The checks are fraudulent and the balances have been tampered with.

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      No the last line is the citizens but they seem content to sit back and watch their democracy collapse.

      • LoafedBurrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Easy to say behind a keyboard. If you live in the US and know your communities, it’s not as easy as you all make it seem.

        • Typhoon@lemmy.ca
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          Oh, it’s hard? Sorry, I didn’t realize defending your democracy would be inconvenient for you. Oh well, nothing you can do then.

      • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
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        “There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order”

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        People aren’t just sitting back though. The world literally just watched someone intentionally kill Charlie Kirk in a public setting, in front of thousands of people.

        • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
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          That was MAGA on MAGA gang violence

        • Typhoon@lemmy.ca
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          He wasn’t defending democracy. He shot him because he wasn’t fascist enough

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            That’s speculation at best. The kid they apprehended hasn’t confessed to anything.

            Dont listen to the pundits. For anything. As someone recently suggested, pundits are just the court jesters keeping us divided.

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            I’ll take the win, regardless

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            The shooter shot him because he was spreading hate.

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          literally just watched

          What other way to watch is there?

          • P00ptart@lemmy.world
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            Telepathically?

      • yucandu@lemmy.world
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        If it comes to the citizens, we’re all gonna have a bad time.

      • aesthelete@lemmy.world
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        There are some people doing some stuff. But definitely not at the scale nor intensity required.

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      There’s another line after that, but people don’t like talking about it.

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      More scary that it’s down to lawyers. Not the judges.

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        I’ve read good things about the lawyers at Democracy Forward https://democracyforward.org/

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      I get what you are saying and totally empathize with the sentiment given a modern context, but that is the purpose of judiciaries and why the US federal goverment structure was designed the way it was.

      What’s surprising is not that it’s the last line of defense, it’s that we’ve been pushed to the fucking brink.

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        USA fell off the brink last November. Everything going on now is the falling down bit while people hope someone else is stacking pillows at the bottom. But pillows got real expensive lately and a new Trump headline just dropped.

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    It’s almost like it was frivolous.

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      He has admitted doing it because it drains their resources.

      We need slap laws everywhere.

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      Probably AI generated

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        And why they didn’t just use an AI to summarize all the key points in just as much time as it took to write is beyond me lol.

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          “Since you didn’t bother to write it, I didn’t bother to read it.”

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          A judge can’t really do that. At a minimum he needs human staff to do that.

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            Oof yeah I didn’t really think of that, I guess I was thinking this was the oppositions lawyer we were speaking about.

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    “As every lawyer knows (or is presumed to know), a complaint is not a public forum for vituperation and invective – not a protected platform to rage against an adversary.”

    You have to be a really shit lawyer to work for Trump.

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      It would be great if the lawyers actually faced consequences for such blatant abuses of their profession. Lawyers are supposed to have standards they adhere to which are obviously not being followed. These lawyers know what they are doing is wrong and are doing it intentionally, their Bar association really should not tolerate this behavior.

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        They can, and many of Trump’s lawyers have. It’s a process though.

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          They should be figuring out ways to expedite that process because any semblance of respect for our legal system is vaporizing by the hour.

          Sure the average person always had mistrust of it, but when you have the important people in the industry say it, you know it’s fucked because part of their job is to try to retain respect for the institution.

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            They should be figuring out ways to expedite that process because any semblance of respect for our legal system is vaporizing by the hour.

            That cuts both ways - you want a process that is diligent and non-reactionary. Trump will always find more stupid lawyers willing to fall on their sword for him anyway.

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              Yeah but the bar will drop low. He will have lawyers so stupid they are completely ineffectual.

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      I loved that quote! 😄

      And this was a court they cherrypicked for presumed favorability.

      I love that we still get some moments like this.

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      The judge gave them a page limit, too.

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    Headline tomorrow: “Trump appeals decision against New York Times, suit remains.”

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    Always good to see the Orange Nazi lose.

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      nazi rapist. Don’t forget the rape. He’s trying to make it go away, so don’t forget it!

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      Not a loss. The judge just kicked it back as it was a load of whining and shit. If he can make a real grown-up suit out of it, it’ll be back on.

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    Well that was fast

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      Stormy Daniels: “I’ve seen faster.”

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    Hey if we never do anything about it they know they can keep doing it.

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      Well the judge threw it out at lightspeed, that’s something

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    😆

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