If less work needs to be done by humans, does that mean we can have Universal Basic Income, and get paid extra for the jobs that still need humans?
Wait… how long is your work week in the US?
8 days
You’re lucky. I’ve been working 15 days a week, uphill both ways in the snow.
I suspect many of us will be getting 7 day weekends whether we want it or not.
The first couple of long weekends are nerve wracking but eventually your body enters rotting phase and then it’s not so bad and you kinda don’t want your 200 day weekend to end
How does farming or the trades interest you?
What a stupid fucking statement. There’s not going to be any workers left.
fucking lol
and increased taxes for the companies that replace workers with AI.
I’ve been waiting for a four day week since the spinning jenny.
“Should”
The USA left “should” in about 1950. There is no “should” here.
Workers were abandoned by the Democrats long ago. Union membership is now less than 10% (and most of that is government employees, ironically)… it was almost 50% back in the “good old days”.
There is no labor party in the USA, there is no anti-war party, there is no anti-billionaire party. There should be. But there’s not.
Well, union busting prevents workers from banding coallitions and adding the unions. F-, blame Walmart and Amazon.
That was a thing long before Amazon and Walmart. It’s just capitalism in action
As Lenin said, “Если кто не хочет трудиться, тот и не ешь”, which roughly translated means “celui qui ne veut pas travailler n’a pas le droit de manger”.
No, but seriously I think it should bring a zero-day workweek for almost everybody, eventually. Which would be a huge problem if it happens fast because not many of us know what to do with that much free time.
I hate how people are so used to getting ripped off that they hear “four day work week” and assume that it’s going to be 4-10’s.
Like this is Bernie. He’s not perfect, but he gets this type of shit right. Obviously he’s advocating a 32 hour, 4-day work week. It says so in the article that apparently no one read. But people are just so inured to everything getting worse all the time. Damn.
Not to be argumentative or anything like that, just wanted to state that I used to have a job where we worked 4 tens and I loved it. Two more hours a day kinda sucked, but having a 3 day weekend every week was nice. Granted, 4 8s would be better if I still made the same money every week.
I also think companies should start paying for commute times, and that the time paid should be adjusted based on the cost of living in the area and the salary.
Of someone chooses to live 3 hours away when they could live in walking distance, that’s one thing. But I work for a municipality in a prohibitively expensive area. 0 city employees live in the city they work and literally 100% of households are multi-millionaires or better. I have a 90-120 minute commute depending on traffic because that’s where I can afford to live on my salary, but it also means I’m essentially working 3-4 hours extra a day.
Of course the city isn’t gonna pay me 50% again more money, but if they were required to pay for my commute time they’d suddenly agree that I only really need to be in the office about once a week for public meetings since mostly what I do is Teams meetings, plan review, phone calls and emails, which could be done just as easily from my home office as at City Hall.
Shit - I get more done remote because I don’t have to deal with people walking in without an appointment and demanding a meeting.
Elect reps that support all these measure Sanders is always creating.
sanders has finally lost it if ai comes for workers, those workers wont even have a week to work with
I mean if it can do it all it should be technically a zero day workweek but we know that is not true. Honestly there should always be humans in the loop.
At that point people would be doing it because it’s something they actually want to do, if we’re assuming UBI comes with it.
But people actually like working (when their survival isn’t dependent on it), so I don’t think we’ll ever reach the point where no humans are working. Even with UBI, you could still have paid jobs for non-essential spending.
if it does not come with a paycheck its not work to me. like people say work on your garden but its just enjoyable activity at that point.
“Should,” yes.
“Will,” not in Christian America, sunny Jim.
Oh, a 4 day work week will come, with 4 hours of work per day (after an hour commute), to avoid paying you benefits. You’ll need 2 or three of those jobs to pay rent along with your roommates.
Fuck yeah #feelthebern
I used to travel regularly to Germany, spains and France, for instance work on production sites and equipment there. The standard legal working week currently in France is 35 hours. Currently data shows on average US workers work 34 hours a week. To be honest, it’s not that far off from the 32 hours Sanders is suggesting in his legislation he is coauthoring
You’re missing an important distinction, though: in the US, health benefits are tied to full-time employment, and most places consider anything under 35 to be part-time. I’ve had several jobs that would force me to clock off if I was at risk of hitting that full-time threshold. I had times where I was struggling to make ends meet, but they wouldn’t let me work more. And, at least in my state, if you take on a second job, wages from the second job are taxed at a higher rate.
So 34 American hours and the benefits associated are very different from 35 French hours. Codifying the threshold for full-time employment at 32 hours instead will only benefit white collar workers. Everyone else will just get their hours cut even further and be driven further into poverty.
Basically, we really, really need to fix American healthcare before anything else, because until we’re on a single-payer system, most changes to labor law will fuck the most at-risk populations.
And, at least in my state, if you take on a second job, wages from the second job are taxed at a higher rate.
that doesn’t sound right…
the suggested withholding on second (or third) jobs is higher to make up for the fact that your first job’s withholding is usually based on it being your only income source. in the end, you’re taxed on your combined income, one job or three, it doesn’t matter.
Denmark made the 32-hour workweek standard and their GDP went up. The fact that other countries aren’t following suit is proof that the capitalists don’t even follow their own statistical models.
Uh, no we didn’t. I wish we did, though.
Every once in a while, some politician brings it up, but 37 hours is still the default.
Did you think to ask/wonder why it’s exactly 1hr below 35?
The issue is that you have to work 38 to 40 hours a week to get full time benefits, so most Americans aren’t getting healthcare or vacation days at that level of employment, as they are considered “part time workers.”
It literally says for the same pay and benefits. You didn’t even have to read the article.
That’s true, a very good point!
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