We’re already at the point of hiding from the T.V. to write privately in your journal, and the state can put you on trial for erasing your phone memory, so that’s neat. I can’t imagine we’re too far away from getting a knock on your door if you don’t have any devices plugged in that they can monitor you through. Establishing personal privacy will eventually be considered reasonable suspicion. “What exactly are you trying to hide from us?”
The fact im storing up on dozens of antipsychotics (cause yay i was feeling better and i didnt need but my doc wanted me on them) now doesnt sound such a bad idea, maybe i can just absolutely dismantle all my brain functions into death or becoming a vegetal, you know, live life but keep your options opened, I’d hate to live like a bitch like that, always being watched like if i was on reality TV or some bullshit, i read a bit on the TV stuff (i think you are referencing 1984 or bnw maybe) but i dont have a tv, a pc is more than enough
I don’t see many ways out really, its depressing
fisting, it will be a lot like fisting. uncomfortable but you’ll get used to it.
following on the analogy, what lube-like policy you think could end up being introduced to facilitate such a process? (if any)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect
I have noticed my behaviour being affected for several years now.
could i ask what you do/avoid doing? im curious (ofc if you feel comfy sharing)
Minimal online presence. No social media, minimal use of Google, Twitter, hobby forums, product reviews, no cookies and so on. Lemmy was difficult to join but I am glad it exists.
I wrote more but deleted it…
It’s already changing lives. I did some stupid shit in my teens, I would hate if it was recorded. Teens now have that knowledge that anything can be recorded and shared easily with the world.
I don’t think they’ll do any of the dumb stuff I did at parties.
when underage i did ONE video call with an adult, to think that might be somewhere out there… man that’s funny
Internet Archive folks just did a podcast episode about this: Mass Surveillance and the Loss of Fun. Basically everyone is on stage putting on an act all the time.
Thank you so much, I’ve been looking for frameworks on what tf to do about it, like how to live my life now, I’ve been depressed for a bit so I havent left the house much in the last few years and now that this update hit the server i dont know what the best moves are, its a totally novel situation for me, i read the panopticon but not much more than that, i literally dont know how life will turn out now
There is an increasing demand for tech-free spaces.
I envision that we will collectively develop increasingly stringent etiquette regarding when it is appropriate to use (or even carry) communications tech. E.g. venues with a phone locker at the entrance. Also simply shunning public use.do you know if you can have tech offline being 100% secure it won’t connect to anything? like foiling out a room (faraday) and then using tech inside it to like listen to music or play LAN, i get that phones could still record so i would still have those outside tho
Yes a Faraday venue I like it. Could even get attendees to walk through an emp to enter. I suppose people with vital tech like pacemakers might want to ask for an exemption
Yeah, that sounds like a pain, as you can’t check that (you wont slice them open), but % of pacemaker/vital tech should be super small
It could be a great equalizer if everyone was just as under the microscope as everybody else. The power-tripping types will never allow that, however.
I wish…
look at the UK, CHINA. thats why flock, AXON, motorola is hastily trying to deploy AI cameras, so by then it will be next to impossible to take them all down.
Yeah, but how do you think it will change the way you or society at general for that matter will live life?
Think carefully before you answer. They are watching.
It affects my associations in that I don’t use some of the applications and platforms they, the larger society, use to interact with each other and also that I am reluctant to even contact people at all if they have spyware or LLMs in their phones, cars, computers, etc.
As for if it will affect the way in which people already under heavy surveillance interact with each other, I expect psyops to be extremely effective currently but clearly not absolute as demonstrated by fascists and China losing the US election.
What is a content algorithm if not surveilling and studying civilians to push chosen content in front of them and control how they act, what they buy, where they travel, etc.
Double Think
mind explaining double think? i read the book back on highschool, but i never understood it more than like doublethink is a contradictory way of thinking so its easier to accept nonsensical or paradoxical things “dad loves me so much” - “dad beats the shit out of me if i cook the food to long” living together, something like that?
Been about 15 years since I read it but that’s what I recall. Thinking the opposite of what you originally think and being able to delude yourself into believing both are true. Like brainwashing yourself into being a better liar so you don’t get your cheeks clapped for thought crime.
That makes sense
