The controversy surrounds David Heinemeier Hansson, who has posted strident anti-vax and anti-immigrant views.

1Password faced immediate backlash from customers this week over a $300,000 pledge in support of a Linux distro created by David Heinemeier Hansson, who has regularly published overtly racist blog posts that include comments calling for deportation of ethnic minorities in Europe. The popular password manager is now a “distinguished corporate patron” of Omacom, the nonprofit foundation that oversees a popular Linux distribution known as Omarchy.

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  • qupada@fedia.io
    851·
    14 days ago

    1Password does not endorse hateful, dehumanizing, or exclusionary views, including those shared publicly by DHH.

    Except… ya just did. Big 'ol cashy money endorsement.

    Or did you forget about that already? Because we didn’t.

    Art / artist.

  • Jiral@lemmy.worldEnglish
    78·
    14 days ago

    “popular distribution”? Omarchy is neither of those two words, is it?

    • abc@suppo.fiEnglish
      41·
      13 days ago

      https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=popularity

      • 12 mo: #21
      • 6 mo: #19
      • 3 mo: #16
      • 1 mo: #12

      Obviously growing in popularity. That’s what aggressive marketing usually gets you.

      If you don’t like that, perhaps consider stop talking about it, and him. Instead, every second week somebody writes an article about “DHH is fascist”. What the fuck do they think the effect of those articles is?

      Are people actually so dumb that they think accusing him of fascism will make him disappear? That’s like high-octane clickbait fuel.

      Same with Trump et alia. It’s garmonbozia.

      • Jiral@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        13 days ago

        I don’t write any articles on him or his dot file collection. The reach of Lemmy comments is close to zero and even more so among the red pilled who know the truth.

      • 0x0@infosec.pubEnglish
        1·
        11 days ago

        The DistroWatch Page Hit Ranking statistics are a light-hearted way of measuring interest in Linux distributions and other free operating systems among the visitors of this website. They correlate neither to usage nor to quality and should not be used to measure the market share of distributions. They simply show the number of times a distribution page on DistroWatch was accessed each day, nothing more.

  • Pxtl@lemmy.caEnglish
    721·
    14 days ago

    “popular Linux distribution known as Omarchy.”

    I’ve literally never heard of it.

    • BassTurd@lemmy.worldEnglish
      471·
      14 days ago

      I’ve seen a handful of videos about it recently that have been pushed into my algorithm. There’s definitely a campaign to get it out to influencers. Never heard of it prior to this week.

      It’s just a fork of Arch, with tiling, that’s been slop coded with AI. Something anyone could recreate without AI in a couple hours if they’re familiar with Arch.

    • Aeder@lemmy.worldEnglish
      24·
      14 days ago

      It’s yet another distro being shilled by god knows who on YouTube and other social media.

      The fact that it’s being pushed so hard without anything of note about it is already suspicious to me.

    • HubertManne@piefed.socialEnglish
      3·
      14 days ago

      yeah this is like a bunch of other internet things where I kinda hate it even seeing it. for me its not a thing of interest.

    • TeaWithDani@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      14 days ago

      I only know of it because I was on Distro Watch this week looking for top mention distros I never heard of. The mentions position is likely because of this donation. lol

    • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
      37·
      14 days ago

      Oh well if you’ve never personally heard of it, it must not be popular, right?

      • lemmyvore@feddit.nlEnglish
        21·
        13 days ago

        I’m not OP but yeah, basically. People who are passionate about a specific topic will know what’s up in that area.

        I can name half a dozen of the most popular Arch-based distros off the top of my head because… they’re actually well-known. Meaning they’ve been around for years, I’ve used several personally and can argue their pros and cons, and they feature prominently in objective lineups like the Steam Hardware Survey. Omarchy is none of these things.

      • lemmyvore@feddit.nlEnglish
        2·
        13 days ago

        It’s virtually unknown in the Linux world too. It’s literally something they made up overnight and are trying to astroturf.

        I’d say “what a time to be alive” to see the day someone considers it worth astroturfing a Linux distro, except there’s probably some nefarious shit behind it.

  • youmaynotknow@lemmy.zipEnglish
    49·
    14 days ago

    How the fuck is Omarchy “popular”? I’ve been on Linux going on a decade, give or take, and I first knew about it when someone here in Lemmy mentioned that Dell and some other shit companies were proton a few millions on it.

    • Marn@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      101·
      14 days ago

      It’s popular to a lot of the non Foss tech job devs that want to try Linux after mostly using macOS for Dev work. It comes with keybinds they are familiar woth has a pretty UI by default and is arch base. They probably work for companies that are also right wing so it’s something they don’t care about as much as people in alignment with the Foss ideology.

      Compared to today’s mask off fascism in the states the guy behind Omarchy is pretty tame and probably less mask off evil than the people they work for

  • osanna@lemmy.vgEnglish
    49·
    14 days ago

    I already wasn’t gonna use either, but now I’m not gonna use either even harder.

    • teolan@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      13 days ago

      Why isn’t this in the article? That’s literally a journalist’s job to provide that kind of context.

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.worldEnglish
    411·
    14 days ago

    So YT’s algorithm is pushing right wing racist distros?

    Huh. Wonder who is paying to make that algorithm work that way.

  • ryper@lemmy.caOPEnglish
    37·
    14 days ago

    Nonetheless, it seems the company has sacrificed a moral position for a “mission-driven” position. In the same message to staff, Faugno says “the scale and growth of [Omarchy’s] use among our customers is significant - Omarchy has grown to be the second most used Linux distribution among 1Password users."

    I didn’t know Omarchy existed until, like, yesterday, so this is surprising. Do 1Password users just tend not to use Linux, so second place isn’t many users?

    • mlg@lemmy.worldEnglish
      28·
      14 days ago

      I feel like this has to be made up, downstream repack distros almost never show up on the top 10 usage stats. You will always see Ubuntu way ahead of Kubuntu.

      Not to mention 1Password is a pretty popular enterprise app and I have yet to see some insane sysadmin actually roll with arch as their distro of choice. Most are probably on RHEL or some other enterprise derivative.

        • Rentlar@lemmy.caEnglish
          201·
          14 days ago

          That piece of information seems like key context. 1Password didn’t just give money simply because they like the product. More or less, it’s product placement in return for funding.

          I’m on the fence if that’s better or worse.

        • mlg@lemmy.worldEnglish
          151·
          14 days ago

          Ah didn’t realize it came preinstalled lol.

          spoiler

          Prepackaged “superior” arch distro and the best they could come up with was 1Password? seriously lol?

          • Zak@lemmy.worldEnglish
            151·
            14 days ago

            1Password is the best they could come up with when “best” is measured in dollars contributed.

        • ryper@lemmy.caOPEnglish
          10·
          14 days ago

          I said somewhere else that giving money to a distro won’t even have an ROI, but I didn’t know about this. If the distro is promoting their product that’s a whole other thing.

        • 418_im_a_teapot@lemmy.worldEnglish
          71·
          14 days ago

          Terrible security record?

          Of the items listed in your link, only the second one seems problematic, in that I wish they had discovered the (non-password but still privacy related) issues first. Even that section acknowledges all of the issues are fixed. The only section that makes it sound like there is still a problem is the last one, which states that version X still contains the vulnerabilities, but in reality that’s just how versions work. Patching a vulnerability creates a new version.

          Is there ANY record of passwords being leaked from 1password because of their own lack of security??

          • abc@suppo.fiEnglish
            1·
            13 days ago

            The pattern is this: First, they find out who to hate. Second, they find reasons to hate. Third, if they cannot find any reasons, they make them up.

        • tyler@programming.devEnglish
          54·
          14 days ago

          lol what. 1Password literally has one of the best security records out there. They’re the ones actually inventing new more secure ways of doing things. The fact that those are all of the issues over the years and they’re one of the most popular pw managers on the planet is pretty indicative of how strong their security actually is. And they’ve never had a password breach, unlike lastpass.

    • eleijeep@piefed.socialEnglish
      7·
      14 days ago

      I haven’t checked but I would guess that 1password comes pre-installed in Oligarchy and they’re counting every user that loads the client as a “user.”

      • mcv@lemmy.zipEnglish
        51·
        14 days ago

        Isn’t that a commercial product for which great open source alternatives exist? What kind of distro does that?

        And don’t they also preinstall Basecamp, DHH’s own company’s product?

        Maybe it’s all just a vehicle for product placement.

        • cley_faye@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          14 days ago

          What kind of distro does that?

          One that does not care at all about having maintaining a sane and open ecosystem. Where there’s money to make, they will prey down quickly. Now that people are somewhat convinced that Linux based systems can work and actually attract the general public, a whole new market is ripe for reaping.

  • acockworkorange@mander.xyzEnglish
    371·
    13 days ago

    of Omacom, the nonprofit foundation that oversees a popular Linux distribution known as Omarchy.

    popular?! According to whom?

    • Siegfried@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      13 days ago

      From Omarchy’s site:

      malleable OS for the age of agents. Where you can vibe your way through every alteration, tweak, and desire. Be the Omarch and command your agent!

      Wtf

  • lechekaflan@lemmy.worldEnglish
    34·
    14 days ago

    Why I use KeyPass – which is FOSS – instead of entrusting everything to a privately-run paid website which can turn against everyone at anytime.

    edit: to that wiseacre below, do you think it’s better to go back to passwords in a notepad? 🤣

    • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
      1·
      13 days ago

      KeePass is great, but it needs multi-user, granular permissions and conflict resolution on sync. Sharing with multiple simul users is like trying to work on stone tablets.

      • lechekaflan@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        13 days ago

        Yeah, it’s good for personal use, it’s indeed a reliable keyfob. But I believe there should be a version that works for your use case required for multiple users, and you can fork it then modify.

    • titanicx@lemmy.zipEnglish
      425·
      14 days ago

      It’s funny you don’t think that could happen to them too. Such confidence.

        • titanicx@lemmy.zipEnglish
          223·
          14 days ago

          Unless you’re the one literally writing the program. It is being developed by other people who at any point in time could have issues. Just saying not saying they do now but it can certainly happen.

          • InFerNo@lemmy.mlEnglish
            9·
            14 days ago

            The passwords are saved into a vault file. You can choose a different software that is capable of opening the vault. I use keepassXC for example. there’s some variety of programs that can open this filetype, on many different platforms.

          • cley_faye@lemmy.worldEnglish
            71·
            14 days ago

            You think if the developer bails out, the software will magically disappear from everywhere, leaving you with no way of recovery whatsoever?

            Let’s say they decide to pull the plug. Everything you have that’s already running will keep running. Code can be forked (in fact with keepass, it already happened). Data can be exported after the fact. Other software can actually open keepass database file.

            You really don’t see the difference between this and “the server stopped sending you your own data, oops”?

          • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            2·
            14 days ago

            You don’t auto update it, and you store the keys locally, and if you need passwords on a device you use a VPN to access them, I’m not to concerned about updating my manager I’m more concerned about my VPN 😂

            But I get what your saying.

            • NoodlePoint@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              14 days ago

              They distrust anyone to keep their passwords except to write their own program to manage theirs, or happen to take blind pride in supposed eidetic memory.

      • IllNess@infosec.pubEnglish
        101·
        14 days ago

        1Password is a paid service. The money given to for the service can go to organizations the user doesn’t agree with.

        KeePass is free.

        How is it the same?

  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    331·
    13 days ago

    As bad as the “Nazi bar” problem seems to be in FOSS at the moment, it is definitely heartening to consistently see how immediate and overwhelming the pushback has been. I think it says a lot about the community, and it’s a good thing.

  • nil@piefed.caEnglish
    23·
    14 days ago

    I literally didn’t know this, but I’ve switched from 1Password to KeePassXC few days ago because its Android client stopped working. Wth?

    • KullumDaue@lemmy.worldEnglish
      76·
      14 days ago

      shouldn’t you have switched to Bitwarden?

      i am on bitwarden, and i want to switch to keepass, but i am dreading syncing the database between my phone and my PC.

      • Killercat103@slrpnk.netEnglish
        14·
        14 days ago

        You can use Syncthing to synchronize the database file between your devices. It’s kinda neat tbh.

      • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
        73·
        14 days ago

        No, he shouldn’t have switched to Bitwarden. Why the fuck do people keep recommending cloud shit instead of Keepass?

        I don’t know where this weird trope of thinking Keepass is somehow obsolete or inferior came from, because it isn’t.

        • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
          8·
          13 days ago

          Keepass is great it if’s just you. If you’re sharing with a family, it’s ill-equipped.

          Sharing = putting the file on shared storage (Syncthing, Nextcloud, SMB, Git, etc.)

          No per‑item permissions

          No audit logs

          No user roles

          No built‑in conflict resolution

      • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        13 days ago

        but i am dreading syncing the database between my phone and my PC.

        Fair, but many of us here have a homelab to help with that. Once I had my next cloud running getting other things going was easy.

        • KullumDaue@lemmy.worldEnglish
          21·
          14 days ago

          what i meant was syncing my phone and my pcs keepass databases.

          i used to use google drive for that (storing the database on the drive), but i didn’t like it.

          • captcha_incorrect@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            14 days ago

            I’ve had success on android with Syncthing. I had it installed on every device I needed the DB on and then a server that was always online to make sure each device had the latest version.

            I have an iPhone now and Möbius Sync does not work as well (I think iOS limits background activity). My solution was to access access my DB via ssh (Strongbox has an option for this, Strongbox is KeepassXC but for Apple).

  • Avicenna@programming.devEnglish
    231·
    13 days ago

    I wouldn’t have heard of Omarchy if not for the controversies of its creator. So yeah that is one way to become popular.

    • Ann Archy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      13 days ago

      Controversy? Never.

      Sick thing is, you can say the most outrageous shit, and since you have a direct pipeline to billions of people online, you’ll always find some fumb ducks to pay you.

      Welcome to the post-MLM economy! You don’t even influence people, you just say what they want to hear, and they’ll influence others for you! Jesus christ.

  • Axolotl@feddit.itEnglish
    21·
    14 days ago

    Wasn’t Omarchy literally just a couple of dotfiles for Arch and a easy Installer?

    • Telorand@reddthat.comEnglish
      43·
      14 days ago

      It is currently more than that, and it even has its own repos/mirrors, but the fact that basically every rich person is throwing money at this project should be a huge warning sign to everyone to avoid this.

      But at the end of the day, it’s nothing revolutionary. It’s customized Linux with a tiling window manager, all funded by billionaires and developed by a turbo racist.

      • cley_faye@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        14 days ago

        Except for the very last part (I hope…), it’s the case of most “funky crazy distro” out there.