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ooli3@sopuli.xyz to Map Enthusiasts@sopuli.xyz · 9 个月前

Where war elephants were once used

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Where war elephants were once used

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ooli3@sopuli.xyz to Map Enthusiasts@sopuli.xyz · 9 个月前
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  • inlandempire@jlai.lu
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    There’s a city in France (Chambery) in honour of the Indian Maratha with four elephants surrounding a fountain, they only have the front sculpted so they’re called “les quatre sans cul”: the four without ass because the sculptor apparently didn’t know their anatomy

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      Is that actually true or just an urban legend? Full elephants would make the sculpture HUGE, it’d take up so much space

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        It’s real https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fontaine_des_Éléphants

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          Sorry, I meant the claim that the sculptor not knowing how to make the back half. I definitely believe you on the name! That wiki page isn’t available in English but I translated it and only found this:

          The legend[Which?] says that this square is made up of four elephants without backs since its sculptor did not know how to do the back says the “ass” of the elephants. This is what would have given the name of the 4 without asses.

          I read about the construction elsewhere and only having the fronts seemed deliberate

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            Oh right, yeah that one is probably gossip haha

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              I love a good urban legend

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              It’d be pretty easy to guess, honestly. Just saying “a lot like a cow, with legs like in the front” would cover it for sculptural purposes - the flattish tail being an excusable detail.

              Medieval artists did a lot of this, although sometimes the results were less than perfect:

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      Damn, people really demand fully modeled elephant sculptures?

      • inlandempire@jlai.lu
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        Of course, it’s France after all 😝

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    deleted by creator

    • AeronMelon@lemmy.world
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      “So?”

      “So, war elephants are tropical. This is temperate zone.”

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        Perhaps they migrated

        • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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          With coconuts‽‽

          • SirSamuel@lemmy.world
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            The elephant could be carried. A C-123K could drop the elephant in a large crate with a parachute attached

          • Goldholz @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            Sea turtles, mate

      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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        mammoths probably

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      Wikipedia calls it doubtful, though there are sources which say it happened. I’m curious about Denmark though!

      • MBech@feddit.dk
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        Looks like Denmark is grey.

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          Northern Denmark, yes, but some of the coloured bit is Southern Denmark.

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    • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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      That’s Roman Britain so it is probably glazing the territories held by the Roman Empire. This is likely a map of areas that were ruled by an entity that used war elephants.

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        No, Claudius actually boated them over to scare the locals into shape. Or reputedly so.

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      “Shit, this isn’t the tube stop I was hoping for”

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      Roman Emperor Claudius, so the story goes. If it did happen, it might have been for show rather than because it was really practical for warfare.

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      maybe war mastadon in prehistoric times.

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    Where war elephants were used so far

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      Grey is “yet to be used upon” let’s be real

  • optissima (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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    Now do middleearth

  • Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    You can help by expanding this list!

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    #MapsWithoutNZ

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      #MapsWithoutAmericas

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        US-ian here, yes please

    • arrow74@lemmy.zip
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      Are you saying we need to use war elephants to invade New Zealand?

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    I wish Lincoln accepted that set to fight in the Civil War.

  • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    There’s a story of a logistical miracle right here… 🙆🏼‍♂️🤔

    • piccolo@sh.itjust.works
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      Those islands used to be connected ~2 million years ago, and thus all have native elephant populations.

      • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Oh wow! I had no idea! 🤩

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        Yep.

        Although any reasonably large cargo boat should be able to carry an elephant, anyway. That would be how the Romans did it in Britain.

        Edit: Maybe? Apparently the only source on that episode is from much later.

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      My guesses are: the Majapahits used war elephants at some point in the 14th century, or a British puppet used them in the 1800s.

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        Apparently, not very well, though. Poor olifants. 🙆🏼‍♂️

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    poor phanties 😭

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    in age of empires, i would mass build them all the time. after using the “trade market trick”

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    How did they get to the islands

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      Elephants love to swim!

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        No. Way!

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      On ships.

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        But elephant big. Trireme small.

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            XIII? Or possible earlier?

            EDIT: I’m reading this article. Look what you made me do! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_maritime_history

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    I am curious, is the Yellow in South Arabia in reference to Year of the Elephant or is that seen as not credible and there was a whole different Elephant event in that region I never knew about?

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