• mrductape@eviltoast.org
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    3 months ago

    Anyone want to bet that there are inventions that are great but would cost some people serious money and that’s why we’re not seeing them?

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      3 months ago

      Not taking that bet. From the linked wikipedia page.

      According to reporting in Wired and Slate, the United States Patent and Trademark Office has at times considered applying secrecy orders to inventions deemed disruptive to established industries.

      You may be sure that there are times when they did more than consider it.

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      3 months ago

      There are vast stretches of the Abyssal Plane under the ocean that have no real laws or governance. No healthcare companies, no AI, no partisan politics, nothing.

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    3 months ago

    secrecy orders have been imposed not only on inventions affecting military defense but also on those alleged to threaten economic stability, with critics noting that many such restrictions rest on speculative or unproven harms.

    But also

    The law applies broadly to all inventions in the United States for which a patent is filed or granted (35 U.S.C. § 181).

    So if you really do have a society changing invention - one that could upset this capitalist or neoliberal world order - it is your duty to publically release it and not patent it

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          3 months ago

          Worst kind of poster, sees a ratioed a comment jumps in for an easy jab. If I’m wrong so be it but you added less than anyone to this thread. You could have corrected me but nothing was easier.

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            3 months ago

            It’s your burden to show when things like that happened. You just said a vague sentence while acting like you’re adding to the conversation.

            You weren’t.

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                3 months ago

                Strawmaning is dumb.

                I said you should show when something like that happened. Or shut up.

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                  3 months ago

                  Except that isnt what you said, you said No. Its not strawmaning, I am not defending my point I’m criticising your role in this as useless. My comment and your comment being the two wrongs.

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          3 months ago

          Sure its not, I am delghted for you that you can still see the fappening nudes but if you think for a second that US hosting companies will be allowed to host content that has been flagged under this procedure you ae dreaming.

          Its not conspiritorial to recognise things can be made very difficuly to find on the public facing web.

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            3 months ago

            US hosted companies

            Thats like saying you can’t sell drugs inside the police commissioners office. Yeah, everyone understands that, doofus. Nobody that wants to release information that a nation state level actor wants suppressed is going to do it within their borders.

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              This is intentionally obtuse, how is something going to gain traction without being hosted on services that are answerable to the US before someone else were to patent it and start the process.

              Tell people down the pub and upload it to what? Pirate bay? Tiktok?

              It would be incredibly difficult, the law is ripe for abuse.

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        Good luck scrubbing anything off the internet with even a little social momentum. If people think its good enough to share, then it’s never fully getting scrubbed.

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          Do you think there would be significant momentum behind someone posting what amounts to detailed patenting information?

          Presumably someone without a following that absolutely no one that runs any of the social momentum sites would want someone else to have?

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      I wouldn’t be surprised if most of them have to do with rocketry or bioweapons and other things to make them work. I’ve designed things personally that are not destructive themselves but aid in testing or improving accuracy of hypersonic vehicles. The DOW (formerly DOD) did not allow us to apply for patents due to national security.

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            it’s always been the department of war, them finally taking the mask off is actually a good…makes seperating the good from the bad a hell of a lot easier

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      Water? Brother that’s 50’s tech.

      We’re on to Cold Fusion reactors the size of your fist, SRO high-entropy alloys, and room temp superconductors.

      :D

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        Really though.

        I’ve been saying it for a while, even if we figured out fusion, it wouldn’t see the light of day.

        The petrodollar would tank in value because fusion is obviously superior to gasoline/petrol.

        It would be the end of the US currency if petroleum were to be replaced.

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          See I can’t see this being true, because if we figured out how to do it, and let someone else do it first, they would get all of the gains first.

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            3 months ago

            That’s a valid counterpoint that I’m definitely too intoxicated to properly address but idk I think you cooked me on that one.