It would be nice if tipping was just gone, and everybody got paid a living wage, like in most of the rest of the world. We’re in a Nash equilibrium right now where if you don’t tip, you’re an asshole. Other people might even tip more if they hear about it, which reinforces the status quo. So I keep tipping well, and disliking that we’re stuck here.
How can we end tipping culture and just have everyone be paid a living wage?
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Only to not be a dick. I generally avoid places that expect tip. That said sometimes i get tipped out of the blue and its nice 🤷♀️
I tip if it’s delivery or table service (food) because the minimum wage rules are bullshit.
Hey that’s what I always thought it was when I was little; Disnep
I tip for table service, hair cuts, valets, housekeeping at hotels, food delivery, bell hops, and I think that’s it. I’m thinking pretty hard. The only other thing is if some place I’m ordering a beer, ice cream, or other treat is very busy sometimes I’ll tip a small amount, but that’s the only time I’m doing it out of “kindness” instead of “obligation.”
If I was ever forced to tip, I’d just transfer the entire amount to the tip and change the bill to be free.
If the business complains, I’d just say their service wasn’t worth it, but the worker was doing a great job.
It’s infuriating that the tipping culture is trying to spread to europe as well. I live in Finland and went to a restaurant a couple of weeks ago and while paying the bill the payment machine (or what ever it’s really called) had the audacity to ask whether I want to tip or not.
No. I don’t. The wages of the waiters do not suck here as they do in the states. They’re not the greatest, but you get by.
I won’t tip over $10 regardless of how much the bill was. One person took my order, someone else brought my food, a third person refilled my drinks, someone else will clean the table. I don’t care if you’re pooling tips. Combined I took up 10 minutes of time distributed over multiple people. $10 is enough for that service. It’s a tip, not a commission.
You shouldn’t be going out to eat where servers are paid with tips then.
You’re engaging in a system that exploits the worker then further exploit the worker to prove a point.
Kinda (very much so) a dick move
To be honest I don’t go to restaurants often for that exact reason.
I tip because I used to live off tips. I’d like the laws to change, but until they do, punishing my server certainly won’t help. I also don’t go out to eat very often. Tipping isn’t a major expense.
If you can’t afford to tip, then you can’t afford to go to a restaurant or order delivery. If you have a philosophical problem with tipping, then cook at home and write to your congressperson. Don’t screw someone who’s struggling to pay their rent.
Edit: changed “congressman” to “congressperson”. Surprised that one slipped by.
I don’t understand why people don’t just add 20% to the prices of things in their heads. We already do it for sales tax. We know the number at the register is gonna be different.
Right? I’m not good at doing math in my head, but even I can handle 10% times two.
I tip because I earn enough money to tip. We should all aim to be a little bit more like Robin Hood and a little bit less like Prince John. You know what I’m saying?
Take the wealth from the rich motherfuckers and give it to the poor bastards that the rich motherfuckers are getting rich off of.
because if you dont, you should kill yourself.
we currently have a federal minimum wage in the USA that is extremely low, but that minimum wage does not apply to servers at restaurants.
raising minimum wage, capping the ratio of CEO pay to average employee pay, and allowing everyone in the US to benefit from a minimum wage would probably get the tipping beast to slow down.
if we knew all servers were making at least $30/hr and their big boss was not making more than $750/hr (25:1 ratio - a shitty ratio for CEO pay; this would be one of the poor ones) then i think tips would be a bit rare.
Minimum wage is meaningless. Sure it is low, but it is a minimum not a maximum. Labor obeys supply and demand laws, which is why you can’t find a job around me for less than twice minimum wage even though it is allowed.
If minimum wage was indeed meaningless, you wouldn’t have so many capitalist fighting to get rid of it.
If businesses weren’t regulated, they would bring back slavery since it is more profit on their bottomline.
The term is classical liberal. Capitalist is a strawman used by Marx to be some unrealistic thing they can knock down. Minimum wage is not compatible with the deep freedom message of of classical liberalism.
And mostly nobody is fighting minimum wage because it isn’t a factor - you can’t find someone willing to work for that anymore in most places anyway - which is to say supply and demand is working. They will fight increasing it because that is against the rules of supply and demand and ends up hurting the people who are the most disadvantaged.
Classical liberals were starting to fight against slavery before Mark was even born because it is not compatible with their freedom message.
Businessmen were against slavery before Marx was born as well - slavery is inefficient to a business. It is much more efficient to pay people to work and let them figure out how to get their own food and shelter. Slaves need to eat even when you don’t have work for them to do. Because of this the classical liberal message of freedom was an easy one to sell to business owners since there was no cost to them anyway. (many businesses are of course inefficient and so you can find businesses that had slaves)
I get what you’re saying, but minimum wage really isn’t meaningless because if employers could pay us less they would.
Minimum wage contains just enough money that if you live an incredibly poverty-stricken lifestyle, you can just barely manage to scrape by by using all of your spare available energy to survive until tomorrow.
Escaping minimum wage as a lifestyle requires a fortuitous stroke of luck or the support of people who are not living the minimum wage lifestyle.
The more companies as a whole can crack down on the ability of the average person to escape from the minimum wage lifestyle, the more people they have available to subjugate into the minimum wage lifestyle and keep their own expenses down, allowing them to accrue more wealth more quickly.
By all reasonable means, minimum wage should increase to a compensate for the extraordinary amount of lifestyle creep and inflation that has stricken America over the last 15 years.
If that happened, more people would escape from poverty, meaning that there would be less money available for the richest people at the top of the scale.
if employers could pay us less they would.
they already are - servers are not bound to the federal minimum wage. they have a lower minimum wage for that specific industry… it churns my stomach :(
I’m pretty sure that if the tips work out to be less than the minimum wage that the proprietor of the establishment has to back pay them, the problem is enforcing that, because many servers do not report their wages or do not report a portion of their wages in order to avoid having to pay taxes on those wages, And as a former tipped employee myself, I have been indirectly told that if my tips do not bring my wages above minimum wage, that I would no longer have a job, because that would be indicative of my poor performance, rather than some sort of issue with the company itself.
So whenever possible, friends, tip in cash so that Uncle Sam doesn’t get to dip his dirty little fingers inside of the employee’s pockets that’s making $2.13 an hour.
I’ll tip at a restaurant where I’m seated, someone takes my order, brings me my food, and clears my table. If I have to order at a counter or do any of the above it’s not a place I’ll typically tip.
At McAlister’s the other day I went in and say down, pulled up their app on my phone to place my order, and that’s when I noticed they had removed the table numbers, so you can’t use the app to place an order. I went to the counter and the lady taking my order was in training, however they weren’t really training her. She had to stop someone and ask how to do every little thing. The register next to me had 4 people go through it in the time it took her to take my simple order. The whole time I’m thinking how much easier this would have been using the app. Finally, the order is in and I pay with my card, and it asks for a tip. The options are 15% 20% 25% [Other]. I had to actually put 0 in for the tip amount. I won’t be going back.
It’s important to mention this location doesn’t do “table service”. The most they do is bring the food to your table. They don’t take the order from the table or give you refills.
What is that gif even supposed to mean
It’s not their fault that greedy muthafuckers simply take take take. I can’t fix the system, so I simply do what I can.
I don’t. I try not to eat at places that don’t pay their employees a proper wage and try to subsidize it through encouraging or even requiring a tip. I rarely get fast food, either, because it’s way more expensive than just cooking for myself.
custom -> -200%
