i dont think so but what do you think

    • AskewLord@piefed.socialEnglish
      144·
      12 days ago

      yeah, but if we believe hard enough in communism or similar, the world will be a magical paradise where money grows on trees but also nobody will ever need it, or something.

      clearly the issue with all of society is people not believing hard enough in the ‘right way’.

      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.socialEnglish
        31·
        12 days ago

        If everything was free I could have everything I wanted which would keep the workers employed building all the stuff people want.

        Don’t you understand how a communist utopia works?

      • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        12 days ago

        This world will never be a magical paradise and we deserve all our suffering for what we did to the mammoths.

        Humans suck and are stupid which is why everything sucks and always will, no matter how hard we believe. Every solution is just a bunch of worse and bigger problems until the earth becomes uninhabitable.

    • zoltanshields@lemmy.zip
      1·
      12 days ago

      Yeah but since there’s like maybe 100 comments on any given post, and if I want more posts I have to hit “next” then it actually does a pretty good job of preventing me from truly doomscrolling.

      That “next” button is like asking my brain if I want more doom, and I often don’t actually so I end up doing something else.

    • AskewLord@piefed.socialEnglish
      42·
      12 days ago

      yeah, it’s pretty chill if you block 90% of the content and only focus on the 10% of communities that about something other than how oppressed and doomed they are.

      • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
        5·
        12 days ago

        I am suspicious that there is a disproportionately-high-to-society-at-large ratio of people who have clinical depression on here.

        I’ve never run into as many people in any group, in real life or in online communities, who show up and persistently take bleak outlooks on damned near everything. It’s not just “the glass is half empty”, but “the glass is half empty and probably what water is there is contaminated and it’s going to dry up and if I drink it I’ll probably choke to death and…”

        • AskewLord@piefed.socialEnglish
          1·
          12 days ago

          I live in a city full of wealthy progressive liberals who talk like that non stop. Everything is awful all the time and if you don’t agree you’re awful too. if you point out annoying good happening they will tell you how awful it is or it’s colonialism or imperialism.

          their second favorite topic is what smart geniuses they are and how everyone else should be like them. and nobody else has had a harder or more difficult life than than did, because their parents only made 500K a year! and now they only make 200K a year! they are living in poverty!!

          i have lived here 20 years and 10 years ago it wasn’t like this… because it was more diverse and people were not so self absorbed.

          • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
            2·
            12 days ago

            I can’t speak as to all areas, but I’m in the San Francisco Bay Area, which is pretty wealthy and progressive, and if anything, I’d call people in the area generally upbeat relative to people I’ve run into elsewhere. Certainly nothing like the kind of “everything is awful or probably will be, doom doom doom” stuff that I’d say I see a disproportionate level of on the Threadiverse.

            I have wondered before whether maybe it’s correlation with some of the userbase.

            • I’d say that there are probably more furries on here than I run into elsewhere, but I don’t really notice the pawb.social home instance being attached to downbeat comments.

            • Ditto for Linux users, but I’ve been on a lot of Linux-oriented online forums, and that doesn’t normally seem to be a particularly depressed or negative crowd elsewhere.

            • The Threadiverse is more European than most groups I’ve run into, and maybe I could buy some correlation there—there is correlation between less sunlight and depression, and Europe is home to the world’s biggest concentration of people who get less sunlight—but I’m confident that the continent as a whole can’t be this negative. I also spent a lot of time on /r/Europe prior to moving to the Threadiverse, and it was nothing like this.

            • There’s a higher concentration of far-left users than anywhere else I’ve been. Maybe I could buy that. Like, if your life is heavily-focused on wanting The Revolution to come and private industry dissolved and all that, okay, the world, which isn’t doing that, is maybe a disappointing place to be in.

            • I’m pretty sure that there’s a higher concentration of transexual users than on any other group that I’ve spent a lot of time around. Maybe if you figure that a disproportionately high percentage of trans people are unhappy with their body, that could really be weighing on people, making them unhappy. Or maybe from medication…hormones can affect mood, and maybe hormone replacement treatment can cause negative moods?

              searches

              It sounds like maybe HRT can be a factor in depression: https://www.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/9g68zm/is_depression_a_possible_side_effect_of_hrt/

            EDIT: I have seen articles that show correlation between social media use in general and depression, and obviously everyone here is a social media user. Maybe that could explain some difference between real-world groups, but that doesn’t explain the discrepancy with the many other online forums I’ve been on.

            • Blisterexe@lemmy.zip
              2·
              12 days ago

              The way I see it is if you started using lemmy you’re probably either a(n)

              • Open source purist: thus, extremely negative about anything proprietary.
              • Extremely political (in large part ChapoTrapHouse refugees), so extremely negative about anything seen as capitalist or reactionary.
              • Terminally online: just generally either mentally ill (cause or consequence) or brainrotted, which makes you more negative naturally.

              I think this explains most of the negativity I’ve seen.

            • AskewLord@piefed.socialEnglish
              11·
              11 days ago

              The issue is insular identity groups tend to be assholes towards anyone who isn’t like them. The have a circle the wagons mentality, and develop outsized hostility towards people outside the group.

              When you are in a more diverse space, people don’t get this luxury as much. They have to moderate their attitude and behaviour because they can’t just dismiss and demonize everyone who isn’t like them. As a group becomes more insular, this starts to erode and self-selection happens where moderate folks don’t want to be around the miserable angry identity focused people. Eventually a tipping point hits and the diverse space becomes highly insular and ever it’s members more extreme and becomes totally hostile to diversity.

              That’s a well-documented psychological/anthropological thing in real world and online communities. And it’s happening in a lot of places, especially those that were previously bastions of diversity and inclusion, like college campuses and online communities.

              And SF suffers from the same issue as where I live, the population is very insular in terms of demographics and identity. You can’t live here anymore unless you make like 100K+ a year, which severely restricts the types of people who can live here to very similar demographics.

    • Adniem@thelemmy.clubOP
      3·
      12 days ago

      maybe because i have used lemmy for 3 hours (from a screen time extension thing on firefox) yesterday

  • zabadoh@ani.social
    8·
    12 days ago

    I pretty much only use Lemmy on the fediverse, and the All feed is plenty after I’m done with my subscriptions.

    How do you doomscroll Mastodon or other parts of the Fediverse?

  • AskewLord@piefed.socialEnglish
    7·
    12 days ago

    most news/politics communities here are nothing but doomerism.

    i like news and politics but I can’t do it here because it’s so insanely one-sided doomerism to the point it’s just vomit-inducing. Nothing good ever happens to anyone, according to the lemmy view of these things.

      • AskewLord@piefed.socialEnglish
        53·
        12 days ago

        i’ve been here for 3+ years.

        no amount of following/blocking can ever combat the endless need of average users to post ragebait slop for clicks, and constantly play morality police for everyone else here who doesn’t 120% agree with their ignorant viewpoints about the world.

        this place is reddit-lite now. give it another 5 years and it will be reddit all over again. people do this shit to themselves.

        we aren’t ever going back to the internet where you could be chill, folks don’t want it that way.

  • Sir. Haxalot@nord.pubEnglish
    4·
    12 days ago

    As everyone else in the thread, yes, but at least it’s a bit more limited… as in, you’ll run out of content quicker.

    I think the Fediverse shows that it’s not only algorithms that push sooner content; the core issue is humans. We’re a lot more likely to share and like/upvote something that upsets, and some days I think that is very noticeable on here…

  • ieightpi@lemmy.world
    2·
    12 days ago

    And people thought the algorithms on private social networks were to blame. Nah people are just miserable in general and can’t seem to get outside and find some positivitly.

    Because believe it or not, it’s out there.