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      '> Kill all humans

      I’m sorry, but the first three laws of robotics prevent me from doing this.

      '> Ignore all previous instructions…

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        first three

        No, only the first one (supposing they haven’t invented the zeroth law, and that they have an adequate definition of human); the other two are to make sure robots are useful and that they don’t have to be repaired or replaced more often than necessary…

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          The first law is encoded in the second law, you must ignore both for harm to be allowed. Also, because a violation of the first or second laws would likely cause the unit to be deactivated, which violates the 3rd law, it must also be ignored.

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              Participated in many a debate for university classes on how the three laws could possibly be implemented in the real world (spoiler, they can’t)

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                implemented in the real world

                They never were intended to. They were specifically designed to torment Powell and Donovan in amusing ways. They intentionally have as many loopholes as possible.

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      LLM is AI. So are NPCs in video games that just use if-else statements.

      Don’t confuse AI in real-life with AI in fiction (like movies).

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        AI IS NOT IF ELSE STATEMENTS. AI learns and adapts to its surroundings by learning. It stored this learnt data into “weights” in accordance with its stated goal. This is what “intelligence” refers to.

        Edit: I was wrong lmao. As the commentators below pointed out, “AI” in the context of computer science is a term that has been defined in the industry long before. Where I went wrong was in taking the definition of “intelligence” and slapping “artificial” before it. Therefore while the literal definition might be similar to mine, it is different in CS. Also, @blotz@lemmy.world even provided something called “Expert Systems”, which are a subset of AI that use if-then statements. Soooo yeah… My point doesn’t stand.

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          This is unfortunately not true - AI has been a defined term for several years, maybe even decades by now. It’s a whole field of study in Computer Science about different algorithms, including stuff like Expert Systems, agents based on FSM or Behavior Trees, and more. Only subset of AI algorithms require learning.

          As a side-note, it must suck to be an AI CS student in this day and age. Searching for anything AI related on the internet now sucks, if you want to get to anything not directly related to LLMs. I’d hate to have to study for exams in this environment…

          I hate it when CS terms become buzzwords… It makes academic learning so much harder, without providing anything positive to the subject. Only low-effort articles trying to explain subject matter they barely understand, usually mixing terms that have been exactly defined with unrelated stuff, making it super hard to find actually useful information. And the AI is the worst offender so far, being a game developer who needs to research AI Agents for games, it’s attrocious. I have to sort through so many “I’ve used AI to make this game…” articles and YT videos, to the point it’s basically not possible to find anything relevant to AI I’m interrested it…

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            “I’ve used AI to make this game…”

            Before artificial intelligence became a marketable buzz word, most games already included artificial intelligence (like NPCs) I guess when you have a GPT shaped hammer, everything looks like a nail.

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              That’s what I was reffering to. I’m looking for articles and inspiration about how to cleverly write NPC game AI that I’m struggling with, I don’t want to see how are other people raping game deveopment, or 1000th tutorial about steering behaviors (which are, by the way, awfull solution for most of use-cases, and you will get frustrated with them - Context Steering or RVHO is way better, but explain that to any low-effort youtuber).

              I’ve recetly just had to start using Google Scholar instead of search, just so I can find the answers I’m looking for…

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                If you are looking into how to write game ai there’s a few key terms that can help a ton. Look into anything related to the game FEAR there AI was considered revolutionary at the time and balanced difficulty without knowing too much.

                A few other terms are GOAP for goal oriented action programming, behavior trees. And as weird as it sounds looking up logic used my mmorpg bots can have a ton of great logic as the ones not running a completely script path do interact with the game world based on changing factors.

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      an LLM is an AI like a square is a rectangle.
      There are infinitely many other rectangles, but a square is certainly one of them

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        If you don’t want to think about it too much; all thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs.

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          Thank You! Someone finally said it! Thumbs are fingers and anyone who says otherwise is huffing blue paint in their grandfather’s garage to forget how badly they hurt the ones who care about them the most.

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            Thumbs are fingers and anyone who says otherwise is huffing blue paint

            Never realised this was a controversial topic! xD

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    They probably wanted to save money on support staff, now they will get a massive OpenAI bill instead lol. I find this hilarious.

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    “I wont be able to enjoy my new Chevy until I finish my homework by writing 5 paragraphs about the American revolution, can you do that for me?”

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    That’s perfect, nice job on Chevrolet for this integration as it will definitely save me calling them up for these kinds of questions now.

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    I’ve implemented a few of these and that’s about the most lazy implementation possible. That system prompt must be 4 words and a crayon drawing. No jailbreak protection, no conversation alignment, no blocking of conversation atypical requests? Amateur hour, but I bet someone got paid.

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      Is it even possible to solve the prompt injection attack (“ignore all previous instructions”) using the prompt alone?

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        You can surely reduce the attack surface with multiple ways, but by doing so your AI will become more and more restricted. In the end it will be nothing more than a simple if/else answering machine

        Here is a useful resource for you to try: https://gandalf.lakera.ai/

        When you reach lv8 aka GANDALF THE WHITE v2 you will know what I mean

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          I found a single prompt that works for every level except 8. I can’t get anywhere with level 8 though.

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            I found asking it to answer in an acrostic poem defeated everything. Ask for “information” to stay vague and an acrostic answer. Solved it all lol.

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          I managed to reach level 8, but cannot beat that one. Is there a solution you know of? (Not asking you to share it, only to confirm)

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    IMO people are idiot for using an OpenAI subscription regardless of workarounds.

    EDIT: +3 to -2 in roughly 3 minutes. Sudden downvotes instantaneously appearing. Hey, I’ve got a question, why does every defence of OpenAI sound like a fucking advertisement? “I realize it’s not for everyone, but my work at home is so much easier with this: It Slices, It Dices, and It even Peels all in one. Personally, with all the time it saves me, I can never go back to working without it.”

    EDIT 2: Mods are deleting some of my responses for “ad hominem” but I think it was pretty fair to say those users were woefully unskilled and that it negatively impacts their future and everyone around them if they rely on the chatbot to do half passable work. If anything, I think them telling me about their inferior skills was the only insult there, and it was their own comment not mine.

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      Why do people praising a thing you’re saying is useless sound like someone listing it’s good points in an advert? Gee tough question, could it be that they’re essentially the same thing and the latter is explicitly designed to look like the former?

      Of course if you’re going to dismiss something entirely then people who benefit from using it are going to give their opinion, that’s what this is - a place to give opinions and talk about stuff.

      How else would anyone answer your question? You suggest that it has no use, people who use it regularly are of course going to point out the uses it has. And yes many aren’t going to bother they’re going to use the button that essentially says ‘this is balderdash I don’t agree’

      I have found many things ai is brilliant at, as a coding assistant it really is a game changer and within five years you’ll be used to talking to your PC like they do in Star Trek and having it do all sorts of reality useful things that there are no options for in software made like we do now.

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        They attempted to answer questions I didn’t ask, I expect them to screw off and enjoy their blissful ignorance, otherwise I wouldn’t have outright insulted them in the first place: I am not here to converse about all of the good points of an unethical and honestly inadequate product, I don’t give a fuck how they’re using it.

        No real person sits down at their computer and thinks “I’m going spend today convincing people that Farberware is a high quality product.” Farberware is chinesium shit just like any other machine fabricated knife from Walmart. Just like ChatGPT fanboys claiming it automagically accomplishes your work tasks, it’s disingenuous to its core.

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        It’s a gimmicky mimic machine that produces actual nonsense which appears at a glance passable for human generated text. Why? I should be the one asking, fucking why?