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      What’s interesting about them, and by interesting, I mean batshit stupid, is that they’ll be happy to take the credit in discussions about how non-voting sends a message to the establishment parties, but they become instant victims the moment the conversation becomes about how they helped trump to the throne.

      And here’s where it gets funny:

      All the credit; none of the blame. Who does that remind you of?

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          It’s no end of insanity to see this shit every day. And the fact that they think no one notices this is just embarrassing for them.

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            This is a nice echo chamber you guys got here where you made up a popular position and ridiculed it

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              It’s actually not made up. I’ve argued with many people who did that exact same thing. Go vote, loser, this is your fault if you didn’t

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        All the credit; none of the blame. Who does that remind you of?

        CEOs and other corporate heads. “Privatize the gains, socialize the losses.”

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      America isn’t this way because of Trump. Trump is this way because of America.

      Trump isn’t the hero America needs, but he’s the one America deserves. It’s just a shame the rest of the world has to suffer because of American ignorance, entitlement and apathy.

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        The most moral Voters™️ in the world, they wouldn’t hurt a fly!

        Unless it was on the ballot, of course.

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        I’ve heard that the Purity Ponies are much like Kim Jong-un - they are so perfect, they don’t even need to relieve themselves!

        Such magical beings. We could all aspire to be like them.

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      Yup.

      Not voting is condoning whatever happens, good or bad. If you stayed home, you rubberstamped all of what’s happening.

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      This is what you’re achieving by braindead infighting.

      They spent decades and trillions of dollars on making sure Americans can’t unite. Looks like the investment paid off.

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        While I agree with the sentiment, protest non-voting is already tantamount to infighting. This comment is just pointing fingers to set blame on another, which is stupid. But at the same time, calling for protest non-voters to unify with the rest of us should be the goal. That is the opposite of infighting. That’s not exactly what OP was doing, but that is the remedy.

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          That’s not exactly what OP was doing, but that is the remedy.

          No. They were pointing fingers at, shaming the other side, and/or blaming it for the problems.

          There’s nothing whatsoever about unity in that message, and that’s the problem.

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        It’s not infighting, neo-liberals are conservatives, they’re not the left as they’re portrayed to be in news and media. The gulf of ideology between a leftist and neo-liberal is huge.

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          “it’s your fault that you didn’t vote for us to kill your loved ones, what idiots, you deserve them killing your loved ones”

          Braindead liberals.

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            They have a rot in their brain that if you’re not voting for them you’re voting for the other guy because somehow that’s how voting works. Despite the fact that the majority of the USA voting does not matter because of how the voting system is presently setup. I can vote Democrat until I explode but it won’t make a difference I’m deep in MAGA state.

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        Me: vote.

        You: stop telling people to vote! (Or whatever that was.)

        Unreal.

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          Me: stop infighting.

          You: absolutely not. I hate people who slightly disagree with me more than the elites. (Or whatever that was.)

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            For someone who is allegedly concerned with unification, your ad hominem sure is shittier than the one you were responding to.

            Leave the stewardship of your cause to people who are actually good at it. Unless that was the point, in which case, carry on.

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        I don’t unite with dipshits that shame their democracy and the people that died for it by not voting. They are stupid and I don’t associate with stupid people.

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          This is easily the most braindead comment I’ve read this week, but I’ll still associate with you, because you’re not the one to blame for being brainwashed and/or receiving no education.

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        Of course not. They’re rebels using apathy, and they’re comfortable because there are no consequences. “You can’t pin that on me, I didn’t vote.”

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      Optimist of you to think votes had anything to do with putting trump back in the white house and giving congress away to the conservatives.

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        Uh yeah that’s how Trump got into the White House and those conservatives got into Congress.

        That’s like, the whole point.

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    the federal government sent election officials in Los Angeles County an unverified list of 20,000 people it claims are “likely noncitizens” registered to vote in California. […] federal agents used the list to make the more than two dozen targeted arrests on the basis of its voter fraud allegations. […] The 11 arrestees are among 28 people the department officially charged—and all are from its list of 20,000 targets in the election. The press release claims that every person targeted is a legal permanent resident of the US but not a citizen.

    No words.

    “Every illegal vote cancels out the vote of a lawful American citizen,”

    So it’s the Great Replacement Theory applied to voting.

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      We’ve seen this same story play out in Nevada.

      https://www.techdirt.com/2026/10/01/dhss-nevada-illegal-voter-claims-have-dropped-from-16000-to-200-to-zero-in-less-than-a-month/

      They claim huge numbers, but when it’s time to provide the evidence, they come up empty handed. That’s why we are seeing the show of force with cameras and the media blitz. To create the perception of voter fraud to hide the fact that actual voter fraud is rare.

      We know their numbers are bullshit too via Propublica:

      HSI’s involvement in the hunt for election fraud traces at least to summer 2025, when agency supervisors embraced a proposal from a midlevel agent who’d publicly echoed Trump’s claims about elections. He argued the agency’s powerful databases and tools could find noncitizens even on the voter lists that states make publicly available, from which the most confidential information has been redacted. Under Trump, the Justice Department had collected many public voter rolls as part of a controversial effort to compel states to turn over the unredacted versions.

      Those searches went forward, ProPublica’s reporting shows, helping to generate tens of thousands of leads regarding illegal voting across the country. But when HSI agents were sent to investigate them, the results were similar to what Teirab reported from Minnesota.

      Between January 2025 and May 2026, a ProPublica analysis of Justice Department data shows, fewer than 150 alleged noncitizen voters were referred for prosecution. Even fewer — 41 — were charged with voting illegally or other election-related crimes. (More than 150 million people voted in the most recent presidential election.)

      […]

      There’s an array of reasons why Trump’s campaign to document claims of widespread voter fraud hasn’t succeeded. Most obviously, it’s exceedingly rare, as countless studies and state audits have found. Noncitizens often get on voter rolls by accident or when government officials make errors. Last month, New Jersey disclosed that a mistake involving its Motor Vehicle Commission caused 6,600 noncitizens to be registered (fewer than 400 voted).

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          Nevada is weird. Dem and Rep are about the same. Independents out number both are a plurality (ninja edit). Dems dominate Senate and House seats. The governor is a Rep. The state voted Trump, Biden, Clinton, Obama, Obama, Bush, Bush.

          Party Total voters Percentage
          Democratic 569,337 27.61%
          Republican 568,665 27.58%
          Independent American 82,903 4.02%
          Libertarian 13,620 0.66%
          Other parties 30,806 1.49%
          Nonpartisan 796,805 38.64%
          Total 2,062,136 100.00%

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada#Politics

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      as if CA is going to vote for trump lol. its just sound bites for faux news, to scare the magats, how shithole blue areas are. alot of travel influencers(conservatives) solely go to blue areas to do the same, and only visit extremely proverty stricken areas.

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    On Monday, federal authorities announced the arrest in California of at least 11 people, and charges against 28, alleging they registered to vote as noncitizens.

    Whoa! 28 people! That’s essentially zero, statistically speaking, which is exactly what knowledgeable people have been saying for years: that voter fraud is basically non-existent, and that it’s not at all worth spending millions of dollars to combat.

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      And keep in mind that they’ve done nothing to actually verify that A) the people they’ve arrested are not citizens and B) that if they are not, that they actually registered to vote. In their own words, the list is of “likely non-citizens.” So basically, they have a list of people who are permanent residents. If you, a citizen, happen to have the same name as someone on that list, and you’re registered to vote, you are at risk of being arrested. Or, vice versa, if a person on that list has the same name as someone registered to vote, they might get arrested even though they did nothing wrong.

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      It affects a handful of people directly but it’s intended to intimidate many more.

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      to distract from actual voter fraud the GOP is actually doing. voter suppression, ballot purging, closing count immediately as a gop is in the lead.

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        And given the trump admins current track record of voter fraud cases I expect all 28 cases to go nowhere.

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      Didn’t they also demand California to not count another 20 000 ballots unless they are all investigated (a practical impossibility in the short time) so it’s a bit more being demanded?

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        more than likely its soundbites for faux, to make the boomers and righties go to the polls and ignore the WAR in iran, oil, farmer, tourism problems. california isnt going to turn to gop instantly.

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    So who could the Republicans get to illegally vote for them? Russian agents? Maybe they bus around bunch die hards to go place to place attending rallies and voting in every location they can.

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      Russian agents are not supporting the Republican party. Stop pretending there is some conspiracy to make America like this. They did it themselves. Trump is like the most American American to ever American.

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        Published as a strategy suggestion in 1997 and is literally a textbook for their military academy. Notice how it says “for instance, provoke Afro-American racists”. The playbook is to find existing pain points and dig in deep. Obviously it would be much more difficult to create such a movement from scratch. Much easier to inject ragebait into the lives of people already prone to being hateful.

        Other great bits:

        The United Kingdom, merely described as an “extraterritorial floating base of the U.S.”, should be cut off from the European Union.

        Wonder if that could ever happen, eh?

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          We know the Russians were involved in that. MI6 confirmed it and then the government of the time covered it up.

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        Trump is owned by Russian mobsters with whom he’s been laundering money since the 80s, and Putin who almost certainly has compromising videos of the president with underaged children (and I’m guessing at least one snuff video because Trump is a sick fuck who Jeffrey Epstein described as the worst person he’s ever known). It’s patently evident they conspire together—Trump himself admits he talks to Putin every week. “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.”

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          Trump literally cannot be blackmailed. Any compromising evidence would be dismissed by him as AI or fake news and his followers would believe it without question. And in recent years, it’s been shown that Trump is basically above US law.

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            And yet he is inexplicably relaxing sanctions on Russia while they are invading our ally, Ukraine (whom we signed a pact with to protect them from Russia when they denuclearized). Russia also supports Iran. So we’re harming our ally to benefit our enemy, who also supports our other enemy who we are also at war with.

            So if he can’t be blackmailed, then he’s just doing it for money/love of treason.

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            I remember when MAGA claimed Trump couldn’t be bribed because he was already rich. Trump checks pretty much the boxes for someone who can be both bribed and blackmailed: he’s greedy, proud, insecure, has a criminal history he wants to keep secret including rape and money laundering, is a pedophile, has no sense of loyalty, and there’s a good chance he was (maybe still is) in debt to the the Russian mob.

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        Even if Russia did meddle, it is/would be because it’s incredibly easy to fuck with US politics.

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        He’s so American that he will let the USA go into a civil war and give up global dominance through sheer incompetence. By his very Americannes he make the Russian agents wettest dreams come true.

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        Let’s clarify - there is no evidence that Russan agents had any signficant impact on US elections, nor Brexit. There is evdence that tuey have tried.

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    “Noncitizen voting in a federal election is a federal crime, and knowingly facilitating such conduct is equally unlawful,” McCotter wrote in a letter to county officials and California Secretary of State Shirley Weber that was obtained by the Associated Press. “If persons knowingly tabulate ballots cast by individuals identified by federal agencies as noncitizens, they risk becoming aiders and abettors to a federal crime.”

    Here it is. They intend on arresting people using “aiding and abetting”

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      Sounds like Republicans intend to start arresting state election officials, and the bar they’ve set for doing that is so low that they can basically arrest whomever they want, and thereby shut down polling or counting facilities at will.