• 3abas@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    It isn’t profitable at current pricing, and it will have lower adoption at higher pricing.

    The technology isn’t going anywhere, when the bubble pops and hardware prices come down, local open weight models will be sufficient and the hardware to run them will be cheaper than cloud models.

    In the short term, however, it’ll be a shit show.

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      It isn’t profitable at current pricing, and it will have lower adoption at higher pricing.

      The subscriptions that are there to expand customer base, sure.

      But that significant part of the business where large corporations pay API prices? These are designed to cover the costs.

      The reasons why the companies still running losses with subscriptions is that the market devide is far from settled.

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      6 days ago

      I really wish you guys who believe this would be able to go forward in time and see what happened. :)

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        Well… We all go forward in time. That’s kinda how time works (generally).

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        Do you have a reason to believe what I said is unbelievable?

        It’s their own numbers…

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          Personally, in this paragraph:

          The technology isn’t going anywhere, when the bubble pops and hardware prices come down, local open weight models will be sufficient and the hardware to run them will be cheaper than cloud models.

          I honestly believe that the AI hype is just the justification for the price hikes on hardware, the point is removing access to capable hardware for all of us so that they can have most, if not all, control over the population.

          I certainly hope you’re right, but all signs say otherwise, in my opinion anyway.

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              6 days ago

              That may very well be the case. Now, is it really a conspiracy when everything points to it, or is it a justified suspicion?

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                Conspiracies exist. Many are well documented, or at least documented enough to call out specific people for specific behavior.

                A conspiracy mindset ignores those, and instead suspects conspiracy everywhere else, and usually without substantial evidence. Easy instances are detectable when the sentence goes they do something to harm us in a vaguely related way.

                The latter is all over YouTube, and what influencers make money with. The former is sometimes reposted on YouTube after some journalists publish it in a serious media outlet.

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                The problem is that those “signs” don’t really point to it?

                Like, new technology with bunch of hype appears, demand goes up, the hardware industry raises prices, prices probably won’t go down to how they were before because the industry is pretty cartel-like.

                That happens is every poorly-regulated market.

                You don’t need a secret cabal of people making computer parts expensive on purpose to make people dumb to have that make sense, and requires extra justification.

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          Maybe, but im convinced it will work just like any other technology that has arrived before it.

          Currently we are in the hype stage where so called experts are warning the technology can kill humanity and other silly things.

          But this will pass. The technology will continue to be very useful to both companies and individuals and because of this, pricing will adapt. This means less price for the consumers as number of users and competition goes up.

          We will have a society where Ai is used to take our orders, find our information, do a lot of office job tasks. It will become just as common everywhere as screens and phones.

          And people say it’s not going to be profitable? That’s extreamly improbable. Every technology that is used by everyone is highly profitable, it’s just a matter of which companies will win the market and which won’t.

          There won’t be any bubble popping because it’s not a bubble. It’s a new technology, like phones and laptops once were too. I had one of the first smart phones actually and I watched that market explode over the coming decade, with every human buying a smart phone. That market is now stagnated, more of less. But Ai has only just begun.

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            As how my local AI would put it, “I would like to gently push back”:

            There is an AI bubble. Just as the Dotcom Bubble, it won’t kill the technology nor slow advancement - it simply selects against companies that are not fiscally responsible or intelligent about their agenda.