The NDP are the captains of economic stupidity. The only thing Avi suggested was to build lots of non-market housing, as if that’s gonna solve all our problems.
First, he’s pushing for public ownership of several major businesses/assets and I suspect he wouldn’t stop with the ones he listed. I don’t mean to be that guy but that’s full on communism, which has a long history of failure. I can’t begin to explain why in a single post, there is lots of literature on it.
His entire approach is to take from the rich and give to the poor - and that’s not entirely a bad thing. The problem is that’s ALL he has. It won’t solve the problems we have.
Prices are set by supply and demand. When people have more money, the demand effectively goes up and actually increases prices. The solution is to increase the supply, witch he doesn’t address at all for things like gas and groceries.
He has absolutely nothing for stimulating the economy, or making us less dependent on the US.
He keeps saying we need to be creative but he’s just rehashing old ideas that were proven to fail.
I disagree with some of your points, here’s my take:
I came from a country which used to have publicly-owned assets, specifically gas and utilities (including communication/phones). They served a specific function, to subtly influence the market while still keeping it free. There were always private entities competing with it, and they still flourished by providing better service or value add, as opposed to the public option, which didn’t advertise, and only offered the bare minimum (at a cheaper cost).
There was a major push to move to privatization after and it was great for about 2 years before it became a race to the bottom. Since the barrier to entry was so high, there wasn’t really a free market for it, and things became an oligopoly and service went to shit. The old reliable ones are expensive and offered bad service, any newcomers get bought out or went bankrupt. I think public ownership is the middle ground, and needed to keep the “free market” truly free.
And not having anything other than equalizing resources is fine for now. As you said, it won’t solve all problems, but it will solve some, and prevent others. Then, we can start looking at other problems and adjusting.
My experience working in different countries is that: a rich nation is not one where even poor people can afford cars. It’s the one where even the rich people take the bus.
I would be interested to learn more about the financials of those public utilities. Were they a money pit for the tax payers or did they turn a profit? If they at least broke even I would concede that it’s a well balanced solution, although I would still need convincing it would work for groceries which have very diverse supply chains.
I was born in a fully communist country where everything was publicly owned and it resulted in staggering debt, stagnation, and ultimately war. Perhaps my experience is making me extra weary but when I hear someone suggest public ownership as the only solution I just can’t get behind that. I need to see that it’s a small part of a greater plan, which isn’t what Avi is offering.
I strongly disagree that waiting is “fine for now” when we’re being squeezed by the orange turd down south.
We’ve been doing the “provide tax incentives for big corporations” for decades. That’s caused these problems. Yet, The NDP who’ve never been in power who’s solution is to tax these companies will never work.
Yes it is the solution. We need family sized homes near transit corridors. We did this in the post war period. Most of our boomers benefit from post war federal government involvement in building housing. We stopped in the 90s and now look at us.
The condos were shoebox investments, not real housing. Good they are losing money. We need livable homes.
There is lots of academic evidence making affordable housing more readily available improves social and economic outcomes for individuals, like Scandinavia does. Dont know why you are vilifying public housing. You half-talk as if the free market can solve it if we somehow stimulate the market to build more, but make sure the rich dont do that? Doesn’t sound practical.
I’m not sure what you mean by “make sure the rich don’t do that”. I’m saying a lot of residential real estate was bought up for the purposes of renting. That effectively reduces the supply of available housing for purchase, which drives up prices.
Public housing can have a place in a well functioning economy but it’s not sufficient by itself and I haven’t heard Avi suggest anything beyond that.
How is the current system of house ownership working out for the vast majority of people.
Some people have no chance of ever owning anything, some people are underwater on houses that now have bigger mortgages than the house is worth, some people are still making due, and the upper groups of owners own so many properties that the prices will never go down unless the economy crashes and everyone loses.
Getting more people in coops and other non market housing is a good idea and I don’t see any actual ideas from the other parties that don’t just enrich those who already have too much.
We’re facing high housing prices, high grocery prices, high gas prices, prospects of job losses and economic stagnation due to tariffs, threats of sovereignty from the US, dilapidated military, brain drain, …
And Avi’s answer to all of this is to… have the government build cheap housing??
You tackle these things by attracting investment, stimulating the economy, breaking up oligopolies, preventing hogging of real estate.
Granted, Carney isn’t doing enough on those last two points but Avi’s plan is as useless as PP’s “axe the tax” crap.
If you’re saying he hasn’t talked about grocery prices, then I definitely know you’re just sea lioning because he’s talked about everything you mentioned.
-Use Canadian lumber and other Canadian products to build them.
-stimulate the economy with all of these points.
-employ Canadians to build the houses.
-employ Canadians to design them.
-maybe make these housing projects into housing coops so prices can be kept down and multi class groups can live together rather than class separation.
The NDP are the captains of economic stupidity. The only thing Avi suggested was to build lots of non-market housing, as if that’s gonna solve all our problems.
Here are the things Lewis actually proposes: https://lewisisleader.ca/ideas
That’s even worse than I thought.
https://youtu.be/rfVbscfwMgk
Why? Sorry, I’m not as well versed at this as I’d like to be
First, he’s pushing for public ownership of several major businesses/assets and I suspect he wouldn’t stop with the ones he listed. I don’t mean to be that guy but that’s full on communism, which has a long history of failure. I can’t begin to explain why in a single post, there is lots of literature on it.
His entire approach is to take from the rich and give to the poor - and that’s not entirely a bad thing. The problem is that’s ALL he has. It won’t solve the problems we have.
Prices are set by supply and demand. When people have more money, the demand effectively goes up and actually increases prices. The solution is to increase the supply, witch he doesn’t address at all for things like gas and groceries.
He has absolutely nothing for stimulating the economy, or making us less dependent on the US.
He keeps saying we need to be creative but he’s just rehashing old ideas that were proven to fail.
I disagree with some of your points, here’s my take:
I came from a country which used to have publicly-owned assets, specifically gas and utilities (including communication/phones). They served a specific function, to subtly influence the market while still keeping it free. There were always private entities competing with it, and they still flourished by providing better service or value add, as opposed to the public option, which didn’t advertise, and only offered the bare minimum (at a cheaper cost).
There was a major push to move to privatization after and it was great for about 2 years before it became a race to the bottom. Since the barrier to entry was so high, there wasn’t really a free market for it, and things became an oligopoly and service went to shit. The old reliable ones are expensive and offered bad service, any newcomers get bought out or went bankrupt. I think public ownership is the middle ground, and needed to keep the “free market” truly free.
And not having anything other than equalizing resources is fine for now. As you said, it won’t solve all problems, but it will solve some, and prevent others. Then, we can start looking at other problems and adjusting.
My experience working in different countries is that: a rich nation is not one where even poor people can afford cars. It’s the one where even the rich people take the bus.
I would be interested to learn more about the financials of those public utilities. Were they a money pit for the tax payers or did they turn a profit? If they at least broke even I would concede that it’s a well balanced solution, although I would still need convincing it would work for groceries which have very diverse supply chains.
I was born in a fully communist country where everything was publicly owned and it resulted in staggering debt, stagnation, and ultimately war. Perhaps my experience is making me extra weary but when I hear someone suggest public ownership as the only solution I just can’t get behind that. I need to see that it’s a small part of a greater plan, which isn’t what Avi is offering.
I strongly disagree that waiting is “fine for now” when we’re being squeezed by the orange turd down south.
We’ve been doing the “provide tax incentives for big corporations” for decades. That’s caused these problems. Yet, The NDP who’ve never been in power who’s solution is to tax these companies will never work.
Its shameful you’ve got so many upvotes.
But we do want more housing. Weird criticism.
Building more housing is not the solution when we have hundreds of thousands of condos and homes sitting empty on speculation.
Lewis needs to get his head out of his ass.
Yes it is the solution. We need family sized homes near transit corridors. We did this in the post war period. Most of our boomers benefit from post war federal government involvement in building housing. We stopped in the 90s and now look at us.
The condos were shoebox investments, not real housing. Good they are losing money. We need livable homes.
No, we need to prevent rich people and corporations from hogging all the real estate, and we need to stimulate economic growth.
Granted, Carney isn’t doing enough on the first point but Avi’s solution is like constantly pouring water into a cup that has a hole in it.
There is lots of academic evidence making affordable housing more readily available improves social and economic outcomes for individuals, like Scandinavia does. Dont know why you are vilifying public housing. You half-talk as if the free market can solve it if we somehow stimulate the market to build more, but make sure the rich dont do that? Doesn’t sound practical.
I’m not sure what you mean by “make sure the rich don’t do that”. I’m saying a lot of residential real estate was bought up for the purposes of renting. That effectively reduces the supply of available housing for purchase, which drives up prices.
Public housing can have a place in a well functioning economy but it’s not sufficient by itself and I haven’t heard Avi suggest anything beyond that.
How is the current system of house ownership working out for the vast majority of people.
Some people have no chance of ever owning anything, some people are underwater on houses that now have bigger mortgages than the house is worth, some people are still making due, and the upper groups of owners own so many properties that the prices will never go down unless the economy crashes and everyone loses.
Getting more people in coops and other non market housing is a good idea and I don’t see any actual ideas from the other parties that don’t just enrich those who already have too much.
We’re facing high housing prices, high grocery prices, high gas prices, prospects of job losses and economic stagnation due to tariffs, threats of sovereignty from the US, dilapidated military, brain drain, …
And Avi’s answer to all of this is to… have the government build cheap housing??
You tackle these things by attracting investment, stimulating the economy, breaking up oligopolies, preventing hogging of real estate.
Granted, Carney isn’t doing enough on those last two points but Avi’s plan is as useless as PP’s “axe the tax” crap.
If you’re saying he hasn’t talked about grocery prices, then I definitely know you’re just sea lioning because he’s talked about everything you mentioned.
No, I’m saying he never talked about how he plans to solve these problems. He talks plenty about the problems, he just has no real solutions.
LoL! He does!
If you’re so adamant that he didn’t, then I’m not gonna correct a sea lion. Because it’s clear where your headspace is at.
So building cheap houses would:
-Use Canadian lumber and other Canadian products to build them.
-stimulate the economy with all of these points.
-employ Canadians to build the houses.
-employ Canadians to design them.
-maybe make these housing projects into housing coops so prices can be kept down and multi class groups can live together rather than class separation.
Self reflect on the down votes.
You always get down voted when you go against the echo chamber
Or if you have a genuinely trash take.
Your username- more like Teslasdiarrhea
Your response has such Trump vibes - someone disagrees with you so you insult them via wordplay on their name
You may not agree with their statement, but you don’t have to insult them. Rule #1 of this instance: be civil.