On OpenStreetMap, there’s an emergency=defibrillator object. It can be tagged with information like opening hours (e.g. if it’s inside a location that’s only open certain hours), a description of the location (“at the front desk”), etc.

For example, on the Android/iOS app OsmAnd, you can select ‘Defibrillator’ as a point of interest (POI) Additionally, choosing ‘Healthcare’ POI type will show not just hospitals, clinics, etc., but also AED locations.

Other emergency devices, like emergency phones, are also mappable.


Why YSK: quick access to defibrillators can save lives and significantly improve quality-of-life outcomes. The more complete this data is, the more useful somebody can actually expect it to be in an emergency. Even if the data isn’t queried during the emergency, seeing it on the map could help users know where they are ahead of time.

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    You should also know that using them is not scary. You can’t do it wrong if you follow the spoken instructions. It will not shock anyone if it’s not needed.

    Imidiately starting CPR and using an AED improves the survivability of a stopped heart manyfold.

    If you need one you can just grab one from the nearest place. Don’t bother asking. Don’t be scared of doing something wrong. It’s better than doing nothing.

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      I’m CPR trained with many recerts over the years. AEDs do everything for you, you just have to apply the pads in the correct spot (every AED has a visual diagram) and press the big button. They’re intentionally designed to be easy to use now.

      Also, get CPR certified. Takes an hour or two at most and you could save a life.

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        Taps you on the shoulder…! Hey hey buddy are you okay!!! No response… proceeds to CPR. No response…you! Get me the AED!!!..continues CPR…you! Call 911!!!.. continues CPR.

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          To anyone reading this, this is actually what you do in a situation where there are people around. Due to the bystander effect, you have to call out to specific people to do these things.

          CPR only works if it’s consistent, and you can’t stop until EMTs arrive. After you command people to do these, you ask if anyone else is trained in CPR. Not knows. Trained. And then tell them to sit across from you so they can take over if you exhaust yourself. CPR is tough if you do it right, but you’re keeping someone from dying.

          Edit: To clarify, the trained portion is for legal liability. If you’re trained, your legal liability goes way down if something goes wrong.

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      Completely agreed! I’ve used a few in practice sessions and they are quite easy. The one thing to be aware of is that you do need to get the sticky electrodes in the right place. There is a simple diagram showing where they go. But you will need to get under their shirt and bra to place them, so make sure you’re not pulling down a strangers clothes for the wrong reasons.

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        But also, please rip off my shirt if it might save my life. I’d rather be immodest than dead.

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      Depends where you live. Pretty sure here you need a code to open it which you can get while calling for an ambulance and they direct you to the nearest one.

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        It’s a mix here. Those in private businesses tend to be open and easy to grab. The ones in a box on a street corner are code locked.

        I suspect it makes sense. The slight delay would be fairly minimal. You are likely on the phone to emergency services already.

        It’s quite effective at stopping people messing with them however. Unfortunately, it only takes a few idiots to ruin things. Both thieves and bored teenagers could take an interest in them, and render them useless. A simple code lock makes it clear it’s not to be touched without need.

        I’ve not looked closely enough to see if any have a “break glass” type access system as well.

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      AEDs STOP THE HEART. It’s up to you to restart with CPR afterwards

      if you’re not confident in your CPR skills, do not apply an AED!

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        This is flat wrong. No CPR is worse than bad CPR. And an automatic AED gives instructions to continue CPR when it completes the shock.

        If you are alone, CALL 911 while you are starting CPR. They will help you through it and give instructions as well.

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          Never never never dont do CPR because you are scared of doing it wrong

          The Person is fucking dead right now crack their ribs its not gonna hurt unless they survive

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            Especially since you don’t even crack a rib usually. The cracking people here is often just the bones dislodging from the cartilage in the front of your chest. But even so a broken rib is better than dead I’d say.

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          I think you’re focusing on the wrong part here. Some people will not do CPR at all. And a lot of people think an AED will perform all the needed steps to resuscitate someone. If someone like that were to use an AED, they’re very likely to kill someone.

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              At this point we’re talking past each other, which is unfortunate. I’ve had first aid training including CPR and AED operation, plus a few refreshers over the years. It was always stressed that death was a near certainty if you don’t provide CPR at the right time. And someone expecting the machine to do it all, in a high stress situation typical of AED use, has a reasonable probability of failing to do, even when instructed by the device.

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                Yeah same. The lessons included saying that if the AED is not needed, it’s still safe to apply it.

                It’s not “at the right time”, it’s "as soon as possible.

                There might be a difference in AED features between countries, I’m in Ontario Canada and they are a single standard device.