State supreme court rules in case of two bishops who were silent about three children abused by Mormon parents
Clergy members in Arizona who learn of child abuse in the context of religious confession are not required to report it, the state’s supreme court has said in a ruling that protects what church leaders call the “seal of the confessional”.
The panel’s ruling ends a long-running case in which three children who were sexually abused by their parents sued the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS), also known as the Mormon church, and two bishops who became aware of the crimes but remained silent.
The case has parallels in a short-lived 2025 law in Washington state that would have compelled clergy members there to report sexual abuse. That proposal was permanently withdrawn in October after legal action by the Catholic church.
In a statement, the LDS welcomed the unanimous ruling by the state supreme court on Thursday that exempts clergy members as “mandated reporters” if they learned of the abuse of minors in the confession booth or through other “confidential” methods.
Maybe the universe is like that. We don’t know.
You’re pretending that science justifies the christian god specifically, which is ridiculous. If (big if) there is some kind of supertemporal framework for our universe, we probably shouldn’t call it “god” or anthropomorphize it. That would just confuse people.
The universe is not like that. It has a beginning so it CANNOT be eternal nor exist of itself
You don’t know that. Stop treating assumptions like facts. It’s okay to say “I don’t know.” It’s not okay to make shit up.
its basic reasoning
No, it’s an assumption you are making. It’s the god of the gaps.
anything that has a beginning (this universe) in our plane cannot be eternal
How do you know that?
why are you trying to argue the universe is eternal?
Fuck off, that’s not what I said.
The honest answer is we don’t know. We can’t know.
So stop pretending to know it is god. There is no reason to assume that.
Hey so, maybe we cant comprehend an omniponent God because we are not omnipotent?
Hey so, maybe it doesn’t exist.
Given all available information, that is much more likely.
You keep using “we can’t understand” to reinforce your assumptions. But “we can’t understand” means the one thing that you picked is almost certainly not true, because there are endless other possibilities and we have no way to test any of them.
Omnipotence would mean no suffering, if he loves us. You lack imagination if you can’t see that. There is no inherent need for our universe to be the way it is.