I was abused by my christian parents.
I would like to live long enough to see humanity mature out of superstition and free the world from human greed.
why must he be experiencing time?
Because he performed the act of creating us. There is no action if there is no time.
Any argument you apply to god can be applied to the universe itself. You have arguments from ignorance and nothing else, which is not sufficient to convince anyone reasonable of god’s existence.
No, it’s an assumption you are making. It’s the god of the gaps.
Fuck off, that’s not what I said.
The honest answer is we don’t know. We can’t know.
So stop pretending to know it is god. There is no reason to assume that.
You don’t know that. Stop treating assumptions like facts. It’s okay to say “I don’t know.” It’s not okay to make shit up.
time cannot create time.
How do you know that?
And how do you know time can’t be “created” by something that isn’t god?
I’d also like to point out that in order to perform the act of creation, god must already be experiencing time. So where did his time come from?
If God is outside of time, he has no beginning nor end, so he does not need a creator as he exists of himself
Maybe the universe is like that. We don’t know.
You’re pretending that science justifies the christian god specifically, which is ridiculous. If (big if) there is some kind of supertemporal framework for our universe, we probably shouldn’t call it “god” or anthropomorphize it. That would just confuse people.
“I told you this would happen!”
“But I thought you were bullshitting! Everyone’s always bullshitting!”
“WHY IS THAT THE DEFAULT?!”
The universe, as agreed upon is the combination of time, space and matter
I suppose? The universe is everything, all of existence, from what I understand. Your model leaves out light, massless photons.
so if it was created
Big if! We have no reason to assume it was.
the creator needs to be outside of time, space and matter and be powerful enough to create the universe and be loving enough to create it even though he didnt need it
And so did his creator. Right? Or is this special pleading again?
Also, a god who would give kids cancer is not doing it out of love. I resent my parents for giving birth to me. This life is more suffering than joy, and that is largely thanks to your death cult and others.
God itself has a beginning, right? Something cannot be created from nothing.
Here, again, is the most honest truth: we don’t know.
But inventing wizards does not solve any of these questions, it just kicks the can down the road, from the universe to an anthropomorphic yet vaguely defined “supreme” being whose supposed omnipotence fails to prevent needless suffering. You’ve not answered any questions, and you’ve added many more by making unfalsifiable claims.
Spatially, or temporally? How do you know?
It’s a question science has not yet answered:
The current consensus is that the total universe is likely flat, which implies it is either truly infinite or, at the very least, far larger than the 93 billion light-year expanse we can observe. The flat geometry suggests there is no physical limit or boundary to the cosmos beyond our current detection capabilities
https://scienceinsights.org/is-the-universe-finite-or-infinite/
Go tell NASA what you have discovered, it could revolutionize our understanding of the universe. https://nasaspacenews.com/2025/10/is-the-universe-infinite-new-evidence-challenges-our-cosmic-understanding/
If it has a beginning, it must have a cause.
Why do you assume the big bang was the beginning of existence?
The honest answer is “we don’t know what led to our existence, but we learn more the more we look.” The dishonest answer is “must’ve been a wizard.”
Do you believe that god has no beginning? Maybe the universe is like that.
Again:
To save us from the punishments god created for us?
If he is all-powerful, he chose to create sin.
The universe relies on a lot of specific conditions.
That’s an assertion with no evidence. It’s not like we have other universes we can compare to.
Thus it must have a creator.
No, that does not follow. You have it backwards again. We evolved to fit our environment, and now you turn around and say the environment was designed for us. You’ve drawn a target around where the arrow already landed and you’re pretending you hit a bulls-eye.
There is a lot of philosophical evidence as well as scientific evidence.
There is no such thing as philosophical evidence. There is measurable evidence, and there is logic we can apply to reach conclusions. There is zero scientific evidence supporting the existence of any god.
What’s your favorite piece of philosophical “evid”? I will explain the fallacy.
Who is responsible for the natural phenoma?
Why assume any one being is responsible for it? Why assume that being has a mind?
Even identical twins who share DNA have different fingerprints. We are all unique. This is all more proof of a creator and a soul
Nope, you failed to read the article. Read the whole thing, not just the part you want to cherry-pick.
Also, you’re just plain wrong. Different fingers, even on different individuals, can match: https://arxiv.org/html/2412.13135v1
Galton’s argument, then, is that as the number of people on planet Earth was around 1.6 billion when he was writing his argument, the chance that an individual’s fingerprint would be exactly like that of the same finger of any other member of the human race was 1 to 4. To be accepted today, Galton’s modeling would require more detail and should rely less on an individual’s subjective guesses, but with minor changes, it is correct and conservative.
So your “evidence” for god, which would not have actually been evidence of a creator even if all our fingerprints were unique, is just false.
Please take time to challenge your assumptions. Your faith has taken you dangerously far from the world we actually live in.
We have ZERO evidence suggesting the existence of:
So why are you pretending otherwise?
That’s how we know you’re homophobic. You think homosexual relationships shouldn’t exist. You think it’s akin to murder.
Again:
To save us from the punishments god created for us?
You keep cherry-picking parts you think you can answer (though all you have is apologetics, fallacies) and ignoring the parts that prove your death cult is baseless and harmful.
Fucking scum, fuck you for choosing death.
God exists of himself. That is why he relies on nothing.
Maybe the universe is like that with no god required. We don’t know.
All evidence points to an omnipotent creator
No. There is no evidence we were created, no evidence that omnipotence exists, and logically speaking the christian god is an impossibility.
There is no evidence for god.
Why were we made unique in the eyes, tongue and hands?(retinas, fingerprints and tongueprints)
We evolved via messy biological processes.
https://www.scienceabc.com/innovation/why-are-fingerprints-unique-and-why-do-we-have-them
Fingerprints form between roughly weeks 10 and 24 of fetal development, as the rapidly growing skin on the fingertips buckles into ridges under the volar pads. Each fingerprint is shaped by a mix of genetics and the unique in-utero environment (pressure on the womb, amniotic fluid currents, finger movement, blood flow), which is why even identical twins (who share DNA) have different fingerprints. Their use in identifying victims, suspects, and verifying records relies on this individual variation rather than any single, mathematically proven uniqueness rule.
I can’t stress this enough: It’s not magic. Magic isn’t real.
You equated homosexuality with murder, you stupid homophobe.
There is, stop strawmanning it to “magic”
Can god make something out of nothing? That is magic. Can god reverse death? That is magic.
What’s up with the blood sacrifices and rituals? Totally-not-magic?
The Son of Man as in the Messiah. Matthew 26:64 Jesus said to him: “You have said it. Yet truly I say to you, hereafter you shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of the power of God, and coming on the clouds of heaven.”
Messiah meaning savior? To save us from the punishments god created for us?
Jesus told him to “feed my sheep”.
Jesus was kind of a dick like that, yeah. If we believe the gospels.
baseless? no.
Yes. There is no evidence of god, no observable base, yet you make an assumption and treat it as a fact.
To claim that God does not exist is a logical contradiction
No, it is not. All of the data my brain has parsed over my entire lifetime suggests to my current self that there is no god. Humans made it up.
to be created of yourself, and not of a creator is to rely on nothing.
I was birthed by humans. Who created god? Himself? Or was he always there? Either way, we can make the same guesses about the universe itself, no god necessary.
We rely on a LOT of other things. Actually, everything relies on other things, except God.
And god’s dad. And god’s dad’s dad. Etc.
Hey so, maybe it doesn’t exist.
Given all available information, that is much more likely.
You keep using “we can’t understand” to reinforce your assumptions. But “we can’t understand” means the one thing that you picked is almost certainly not true, because there are endless other possibilities and we have no way to test any of them.
Omnipotence would mean no suffering, if he loves us. You lack imagination if you can’t see that. There is no inherent need for our universe to be the way it is.