You know how people looked at the dumb decisions of #StocktonRush and said don’t get in the #Titan ?

Don’t get into an #ElonMusk #Tesla or #SpaceX

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      Elongated Muskrat throttling legitemate twitter users to keep AI out the door seems to be a good thing for the Fediverse & Mastodon in particular.

      Plus that makes two services on their way to the grave on the guise of “keeping AI out.” *slow clap*

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      I had a Twitter account for about a week that I posted with, after that I made a new one and never posted. The most toxic disgusting social media site I have ever been on. The one and only good thing about it was how the local governments where I lived used to make all announcements with it. I plan to bring my kids to the reading event at the library, better check Twitter. Oh it got moved an hour later. Also the local mass transit system used it.

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    “Pay for your news feed and comments we demand it! Stop blocking our ads it’s not fair” ~ venture capital schmucks everywhere

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    I’m pretty happy just using Lemmy and discord, I deleted Twitter and reddit because of recent events, it’s definitely helped keeping my screen time down and discord typically leads to more fulfilling conversations imo

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          It’s best to just assume that anything posted to the internet is public.

          There are some apps that have end to end encryption, but beyond that anything you type into these sites is basically public.

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        If you care about keeping your data private then why are you on the fediverse? Everything here is public. Anyone can datamine if they want. And you can’t even delete your data if you want (since there are backups on different instances). Even your DM’s can be read by the admins of your or the recipients instance.

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        Unfortunately, Discord can’t be replaced right now. All my gaming friends are using it and I don’t see any FOSS software that can replace it right now.

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          Irc + mumble used to be my goto 15 years ago. It would still work, but understandably a bit less refined

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        Honestly, I’d leave Discord if I could back up my chat history. I have a chat with my boyfriend going on for two years.

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        I’d love to, but there’s no equivalent. My friend group and I need voice channels with ACL, streaming support, video chat support, and webhook/bot support.

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          Check out Revolt, it’s basically a Discord clone without the bullshit. Matrix is getting close to being full replacement, but still lacks some features.

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          Guilded or Revolt seem like good alternatives if you can convince your entire community to move over, might still have privacy issues but I’m not really sure.

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            Moving to a different closed source platform feels pointless at this point, but maybe Lemmy is spoiling me

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              This right here. Honestly, if we’re taking the time to hop platforms and start bolstering the next wave of popular sites and services, why make the same mistake again as the last time around?

              No matter how much a company talks about how ethical they want to be or how much they value doing the right thing for their clients, once money enters the picture on a wider scale and people start looking in the direction of an eventual IPO, everything goes to shit.

              Meanwhile, IRC is still working just fine. No degradation of services after decades. You can still throw your own ircd up on a $3/mo VPS and be golden.

              Moving everything to open source, decentralized platforms can only be a boon for all of us in the long run. Anything less is just kicking the problem down the road a little.

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      I just need a good worldnews and news sub on lemmy and I’ll be set. I enjoy following the Ukraine war through the worldnews sub.

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    I’ve been saying it for months. Teslas are inherantly unsafe and I won’t ride in one.

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      Nothing unsafe with driving a Tesla manually, the risk comes from using their “autopilot”. The cars are quite nice and safe tbh, but fucker Musk’s experimental snake oil “features” are not.

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          That’s usually a reference to fit and finish, but there have been several of them that have caught on fire. But they basically require subscription fees and refuse to use physical controls for important systems.

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            I am never going to give up my boring 2008 Honda civic. I will just repair it until I die. Cars sucked when I was a kid and they suck now. The only things that changed

            • The radio is a distracting touchscreen
            • The keys are confusing
            • They catch on fire from battery problems
            • The extended warranty is getting more extended and non-optional
            • You can’t just buy 3rd party parts or fix it yourself or bring it to the mechanic of your choice.

            The future of cars is the apple model. Except generally speaking apple products work. It would be one thing if they were putting out cars that had triple the fuel efficiency.

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            I can’t speak to the quality issues, but I understand that some of the accidents are caused by the software correcting unexpectedly, and the user overcorrecting. This is compounded by changes to the software and features.

            The glaring engineering issue I have seen is issues with the batteries being discharged and users having no access to the vehicle even though the aux power has juice left (this could be backwards).

            For the fires, the lithium batteries become incendiary devices once they are ruptured.

            Unless we can do something about the batteries flaming and burning the contents to pure ash, they will gain a worsening reputation on their own.

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          Norwegian Tesla owners had short hunger strike over it. Doors won’t open during the Scandinavian winters and wipers freeze shut and so on.

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          It’s worse I’ve heard the build quality is inconsistent. Some cars are perfectly assembled, others have dime sized gaps between seams.

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            Right, seems like a quality control issue. Either way, even if it wasn’t for their megadouche CEO, I would still probably avoid them because of it.

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              Yup. You’re paying for the name. I’d rather get an electric car from one of the big auto manufacturers personally.

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          I’d also heard that before I got my M3 in 2021, but except for the terrible paint they use that can’t handle even the smallest stone chips, I have no issues with it at all. A lot of people I’ve driven around has also been surprised with the quality/feeling of the car after hearing the same thing.

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            After looking at the “article” a little more closely, the “author” seems like a chump and it’s all just goofy interpretations of statistics. It’s trash.

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          The article is quite interesting, but I wonder how if the accident rating accounts for times when it’s disabled just moments before impact? From personal experience, I was a second away from disaster yesterday when my M3 decided to breakcheck a truck on the highway because one of the cameras got disabled due to dirt or a ray of sunshine or something. Granted, I don’t have FSD, but just the glorified lane-assist version of autopilot.

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    Maybe the super-rich want Twitter gone because they saw how it was used to organise protests during the Arab Spring. Musk is just the guy making it happen.

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      I said this when the sale first happened. Those billionaire Saudis didn’t loan him the 8 bil needed to finance the sale, they gave it to him as payment for a job. And it’s 100% the long tail of the Arab spring reaction

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      I don’t think it’s anything so specific, but the rich and powerful most definitely want to keep social media under their control so as to keep populations under control.

      Though that’s not about always preventing protests. They likely want destabilization to happen, just only in the countries they want it to happen in.

      I mean if the goal was to prevent ALL protest, twitter would be boosting only happy thoughts and photos of kittens and puppies right now. But instead it’s pushing some fascist shit. Not exactly stuff that promotes stability.

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      Or maybe some branch of Operation Mindfuck is converting rich silicon valley cryptobro jackasses into useful idiots to trigger an open source social media revolution.

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    I could never understand what drew people to Twitter. I just want to stab myself in the eyes everytime I end up there.

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      Each time a platform reaches enough popularity to attract an average voter, people starts to blame the platform for being stupid. I’m waiting for the day we collectively realize it’s not the platform we hate, it’s the average person.

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        When you have one guy in town that’s an idiot, that guy is the village idiot. The village idiot know he’s the dumbest guy in town and so will tend to listen to the people smarter than him.

        But with the internet you’re getting a lot of people together and letting them find groups they fit into. That’s mostly a good thing.

        But all the village idiots get into a group together where they only people they’re talking to are other village idiots. Then they start thinking their idiocy is right. And they stop listening to the people smarter than them.

        Then you have a lot of confident idiots who bring everyone down to their level.

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        The average person it’s fine, it’s when they’re in a group and you get the average of the average people that things get dumb.

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      I feel like part of what caused it to explode is that some celebrities joined up early and it provided a tangible way for fans to interact directly with them. This was totally novel and completely unprecedented. Prior to Twitter you could watch Entertainment Tonight and read People magazine. Twitter let you directly contact celebrities.

      I really couldn’t care less about celebrities, which I have always thought is part of why Twitter has always felt kind of pointless to me.

      But I fully recognize that for some people that’s a huge draw and I do think it’s a big part of what makes Twitter popular.

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      It’s the same thing that makes any social media attractive: everybody else is there and it’s where things are happening. This critical mass of users is the hardest thing for a website to gain and the hardest to lose.

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      It’s a toolkit that allows people to imagine themselves as an online celebrity. Or maybe a cult leader.

      Lots of followers liking the things you say at the ready anytime you want to pretend that you have adoring fans.

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    While I think it would be more than a few minutes, this would still limit people’s time on Twitter. I can’t imagine advertisers are super happy about that idea.

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      I never thought I’d get any enjoyment out of Twitter, but that is actually amazing.

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    I can’t think of any reason one would want to stay on the birdsite any longer. What’s the use if you can’t have full access to people’s posts?

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    I wonder if reddit, twitter and youtube all got around a table one day and decided that no, actually, screw the users entirely.

    Because they are all doing really bizzare things.

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      Normally not a comment I’d apply wordy science too, but let’s see if I can do better than an upvote. Because this is exactly what I can’t let go lately.

      https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1367-2630/18/1/013029/pdf

      Authorship of paper is 2016, and we’re always talking about larger populations than CEOs, so there is going to be 0 scientific rigor that can be applied to any study.

      Still given the perspective of social behavior being about the product of advocates/bigots on any platform; where are the good, non rent seeking social media CEOs? The standard bad behavior of social networks is always around the issue of monetization, the first wave of ‘well meaning’ people have been replaced with a mandate for profit and a limited playbook. The social contagion was taking buyouts, now it’s turning screws to users.

      Weirdly Zuckerberg looks like a model citizen, he’s still playing the growth game.

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      It’s probably VC money running dry. With interest rates higher than zero, we risking putting your money in some online firm that never made a profit when you can get 3-4ish% with hardly any risk.

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    Once Musk took over Twitter, and he opened his day with firing half his staff, we kinda knew he was going to enshittify Twitter into irrelevance. Now we’re watching as the world catches up and seeks alternative platforms for general announcements.

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    Crawlers and scrapper bots consume a fuckload of traffic, that much is true. But I think it’s a bit too late, there’s already enough “twitter warehouse of posts in X language” to feed most AI needs, at least for coming up with short answers.

    Also, I can’t believe Elon did something that could be generally seen as a good thing overall (forcing people to spend less time on twitter)

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    This might actually get more people to move to Mastodon as the influencer accounts will want as many eyeballs as possible instead of only people with a twitter account, and these companies are rich enough to setup their Mastodon instance where they get to control their content instead of Musk.

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      Unfortunately, I’m just seeing a wave of “here’s my Bluesky account” tweets from the few holdouts I still followed on Twitter.

      That’s cool and all, Mr/Ms Internet Celebrity, but none of us peasants have access to that site.

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        People are going to want to try different things, as it’s complete chaos right now since the foundations of Internet advertising is being shaken to its core because of all the centralized services are making one bad decision after another.

        New forms of marketing will definitely emerge from this, we just don’t know what yet, but setting up a Mastodon or Lemmy server should be trivial for these large media companies, and they won’t have to deal with verification anymore.