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Lee Duna@lemmy.nz to Science@mander.xyzEnglish · 2 年前

Orcas sink another boat in Europe after a nearly hour-long attack

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Orcas sink another boat in Europe after a nearly hour-long attack

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Lee Duna@lemmy.nz to Science@mander.xyzEnglish · 2 年前
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For the fourth time in two years, a group of unusually brazen orcas in southwestern Europe have sunk a sailing boat after relentlessly attacking it for almost an hour on Halloween.
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  • Otter@lemmy.ca
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    The ocean community is fighting back

    I promise I’m not a spy

    • Lee Duna@lemmy.nzOP
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      Orcanized crime

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      Otter 841? Is that you?

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        Got a job for you, 841.

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        meep

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      Ah, so there you are… The one who stole my username before I could join Lemmy properly. 🤣🤌🏼 Well played, fellow mustelid 🤗

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        Probably the best family of animals, maybe we need a community for them 😄

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          And octopodes. ❤️🤘🏼

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        They’re on a different instance to you, so they didn’t steal your name. You could both have the same name if you’re on different instances.

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          (I was joking?)

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            Pull the otter one!

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      deleted by creator

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    From another article on the same incident:

    Grazie Mamma was a Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 449 measuring just over 13 meters in length. This fits the general description of the vessels targeted by orcas off Spain: According to researchers, the attacks always target sailing yachts measuring less than 15 meters long, usually while under way.

    That kind of boat is 45’ long (which is liveaboard-size for a family but still not much bigger than an RV), was at least six years old since they quit making them in 2017, and was worth somewhere between $150k and $250k. This one was was owned by a rental company, but it’s the kind of thing a middle-class family could afford if they decided to live on it full-time instead of owning a house.

    Translation: although this wasn’t a “cheap” boat, it was also very much not the deservedly-sunk billionaire’s superyacht you were hoping for. Unfortunately, the orcas aren’t hurting the right people.

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      So you’re saying we need to genetically engineer larger orcas? How big are we talking, 700-800 meters long? Would it also be okay to shoehorn in the smartness gene that the sharks got in Deep Blue Sea? How about an invisibility gene, just for fun?

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        Maybe just switch from orcas to training sperm whales, and see how that goes first.

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        Just go full Norse and make an orca big enough to start Fenrir’ing everything

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      So you’re saying, let’s maybe not hurry to vote for the Orcas Sinking People’s Boats party? That’s probably good advice actually.

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        I don’t know what you have against the orcas sinking boats. Classic liberal propaganda, what’s this world coming to when orcas can’t even sink boats? I won’t be a sheep like you, the orcas day they don’t even sink boats and let me make up my own mind so Im voting for them.

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      That’s quite sad. Sailboats are probably one of the most benign transportation and recreation vessels imaginable. Beautiful boats enjoyed by passionate and adventurous people.

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      Someone needs to just point these orcas in the right direction

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    Sadly, if this keeps up people are just going to start killing them in self defense if an attack starts.

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      “Orcas where using that elementary school to attack boats, it was self defense.”

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      Sadly, if this keeps up people are just going to start killing them in self defense if an attack starts.

      This is the only reason I’m hesitant to cheer for the Orca uprising.

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      The public outrage would be pretty big if they just started killing orcas.

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        You want radicalized orca suicide bombers? This is how you get radicalized orca suicide bombers.

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          You’re not wrong:

          “These nautical raids were likely started by a pod including White Gladis, a female orca who may have been traumatized by a past boat collision. The unusual behavior then spread among other individuals who seem to be becoming more daring and efficient with their attacks.”

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        If they killed them because their ship was under attack and they feared for their lives after 4 past sinkings and no navy nearby to help, I’m pretty sure people would find it reasonable.

        It took 45minutes, that’s long enough to get videos, call for help, maybe try to scare them off and then start harpooning them.

        You aren’t likely going to survive in a lifeboat when they’re taking down your yacht.

        If it happens even more, they’ll he hunted in the region not just immediate self defense. We don’t let killer bears just keep killing.

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      Just make sure you have orca spray.

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        Maybe it’s a good idea to tie some little bells to your swimsuit as well?

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      What do you think the orcas are doing?

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        Fighting a losing battle.

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      Huh this sounds eerily familiar

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    Despite receiving aid from the Moroccan Navy and being towed toward safety, the boat eventually sank as it entered the port of Tanger-Med in Morocco. All passengers were safely evacuated to rescue boats before the ship sank.

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    Well I’d be pissed off too if someone visited my home preceded to shit all over it.

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      Me and the boys looking for yachts full of rich assholes.

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        This was not some rich asshole’s yacht, but a chartered sailboat full of tourists.

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    Watching sea lions die from being caught in fishing nets while their mother cries watching them drown.

    Get them all Orca friends. Whatever we can’t get because it can’t be fished, we’ll survive.

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      Orcas would be all for that actually. They’re pretty cruel to their food and they eat sea lions. Including the babies.

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        Humans should never point fingers, we are the cruelest by any measure.

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      Some part of a group does bad things so let’s support attacking random members of that group.

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    Nice.

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      No, closer to Tangiers.

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        slow clap

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    Nature is fighting back

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      We’re healing

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        No “we” are not. You think orcas will take down freighters or cruiseliners?

        This is interesting for sure, but nothing about nature “fighting back”

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          It’s a running joke originally from the covid months in 2020 when nature came back in unexpected places where people started saying we’re the plage and the planet is healing stuff. So like everything on the internet please don’t take it at face value

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          Clearly they just need to learn how and all ocean travel becomes impossible when nature begins to fight back

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            We just need Mechalodon.

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          How many orcas we talkin

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            You can send in 10,000 orcas and still nothing will happen. Make it a 100,000 and it’s still an interesting yet uneventful voyage.

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              What if they’re given knives, rope, and prep time?

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    They are also killing sharks in South Africa. So it’s not just humans they are pissed off at. Wonder why they are so angry.

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      They always kill sharks though. That’s totally apples & oranges.

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        Oh, the article mentioned it like it was a big deal.

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          Fun fact: Orcas are absolute dicks. They are one of a very small list of animals that will kill for fun and not food. They are the top of the list and most heavily documented exhibiting this behavior.

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            If Orcas are absolute dicks then what does that make humans?

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              One of the few species that can conceptualize what being a dick is?

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                Try again

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                  Sorry bud, its true

                  Edit: If you think humans suck, the animal kingdom does far more heinous shit than the average human CONSTANTLY

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              Im14andthisisdeep

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          Probably an attempt at juxtaposition, as rich people are frequently referred to as sharks.

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          IIRC it is a big deal because the orcas have taken to driving out the native South African population of great whites, which isn’t normal. (insert clever apartheid joke here)

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      They’re ornery cause they got all them teeth but no toothbrush

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      They’ve been killing sharks since forever, that is not news

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      We keep taking their habitat away for urban sprawl.

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        Yeah we need to stop building our cities in the ocean!

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          SeaQuest DSV intensifies

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    They’re evolving…

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      They know…

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      Your browser does not support playing HTML5 video. You can download a copy of the video file instead.

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    They made a Polish boat sink near Morocco as well.

    Orcas really hate boats.

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    nice

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    find it fucking cool that orcas are so smart and learn how to attack these boats from each other

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    had anybody The Swarm on their 2023 apocalyptic bingo?

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