Popular assemblies composed of common citizens could maybe decide where to put a public toilet on a street. Most laws were passed by the senate (composed of aristocrats), and consuls/other top magistrates were appointed by the senate.
I live in a post soviet country so I experience the impact of socialism to this very day. It’s appalling.
Roman Republic wasn’t a democracy. It was ruled by aristocratic families. Lol.
What’s the longest lifespan of a democratic state in human history? Now compare it to the average lifespan of monarchies, for example.
Demonstrably false.
There is no practical alternative to this
An alternative would be to stop trying to overthrow some classes and touch grass
Soviet Union bureaucracy was not the proletariat, they didn’t use the mop to produce commodities, so they didn’t have proletarian class consciousness. Whatever interests they had, it was not working class interests. Lenin, Trotsky and Sverdlov were one nobleman and two petty bourgeoisie.
The State is the only path to a stateless society
This is demonstrably false as first there were stateless societies and then states appeared. If anything, stateless society is a path to the State.
Maybe that’s why Lisa is spreading socialist propaganda. Bc her family directly benefits from it
Unfortunately, socialism discourages and eventually kills off broism.
The next election is the mechanism that makes them fulfill the promises they’ve made during their campaign
Why are you saying this? Who’s the target audience of this bs? What makes you say that if it’s demonstrably false? Elected politicians don’t keep their promises, they just don’t.
If your politicians aren’t afraid of losing the next election
Is Trump scared to loose the next election?
what is wrong with me hiring someone to hire more people?
It’s perfectly fine, but unrelated to the question at hand. You don’t hire politicians.
What is your counterargument other than “no”?
“No” is actually a stronger argument than yours bc you’re making a positive statement here and the burden of proof is on you.
You can’t own people, you never did, what are you trying to ask here?
I dunno. I guess your initial analogy was shit that explained nothing. Don’t use analogies then.
Through elections
Umm, no. Elected politicians can do whatever tf they want. There’s no legal mechanism to make them fulfill the promises they made during their campaign.
That we elected
Not to mention that elected politicians aren’t controlled by the people, most of the government positions aren’t elected.
Through democracy
Democracy is when Government is owned by people. People own government through democracy. Great argument.
If I ask a friend to water my plants, do I no longer own the plants?
If you ask government to persecute people who break the law, do you no longer own people who break the law?
There’s no path forward. We are not moving forward. That’s just socialist progressivist belief. Some believe in Buddha, some believe in Allah, socialists believe in path forward.
And OF COURSE socialism is the only path forward according to socialism. Who would’ve thought.
Lisa is trying to sell socialism to people under the pretext of “all people work together”, greater good for all mankind and other fairytales. She’s just feeding them propaganda. Fuck Lisa.
No wtf. Democracy is state that holds elections. Wtf is “owned and controlled by the people”? How are people supposed to control the government? The government is controlled by govt officials. Common people don’t control shit. How can a government be owned by people? Is government even a property that can be owned? That doesn’t make any sense.
How is democracy related to ownership?
No. “Socialized medicine” is not “people owning the means of production”
“All classes working together” is called capitalism
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Fuck pensions btw, pensions are communist shit and should be abolished.