• miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 months ago

    Meanwhile, socialist Norway’s wealth fund could maintain everyone’s standard of living for 400 years if they stopped working right now.

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        4 months ago

        In a democratic state, things like universal healthcare are also called “socialized medicine” because it is an example of the people owning the means of production in that particular industry.

        That’s why most countries are what we call “mixed economies”, that mix elements of capitalism and socialism.

        Norway mixes in a higher ratio of socialism to capitalism than most countries. But they don’t export any more of capitalism’s issues to the third world than other countries. It’s something to emulate, not discredit.

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        4 months ago

        I upvoted for the first sentence, don’t know enough about Norway to have a critical opinion on the second one. It does sound like imperialism though. When they don’t any more resources to exploit nationaly, capitalists must go elsewhere

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    Lisa’s only mistake was saying yes.

    Just do every single thing in socialism, but change every single word. Call it Americanism.

    Proletariat? No, just “worker”.

    Bourgeoisie? No, just “elites”.

    Capital? “Stuff”. Like how in baseball they say a pitcher’s got good “stuff”. Use your human stuff.

    Class Consciousness - “common sense”.

    Dialectical Materialism - Idk I’m still trying to figure out wtf that one means.

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      You people have good luck with this? I haven’t. I don’t find that you can just “trick” people into believing in socialism by changing the words. The moment if becomes obvious you’re criticizing free markets and the rich and advocating public ownership they will catch on.

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      Dialectical Materialism

      How about “a tug-of-war between owners and workers for jobs, resources, and technology”

      Three examples:

      Factory Work and Labour Unions

      Early 20th-century factory jobs involved long hours, low pay, and unsafe working conditions. When workers tried to unionize, factory owners often resisted, viewing unionized labour as a threat to profits. This created a direct conflict: owners wanting to keep costs low vs. workers demanding better wages and safer workplaces.

      Automation in Warehouses

      Warehouses (e.g., Amazon fulfilment centres) are increasingly adopting robotic systems to speed up sorting and packing. Employees might feel pressure to meet higher performance metrics set by a partly automated workflow, while also fearing that further automation will reduce human jobs. Here, the “tug-of-war” is between technological efficiency (and profit) vs. workers’ job security and well-being.

      Tech Industry Outsourcing

      Companies sometimes outsource tech-related jobs to countries with cheaper labour costs. This lowers expenses for the company but can lead to local layoffs and economic hardship for employees in higher-wage regions. The conflict revolves around the benefit of increased profit margins for the company vs. the material needs of domestic workers who lose their livelihoods.

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        4 months ago

        Too long, I’d suggest “boss-busting”, after “rentbusting”. Or “bosses keeping workers hostage”, maybe?