Yeah these windows already existed when wooden frames without seals and single panes were the standard. My grandmas house has them so basically at least for 50-60 years. There is no excuse not to have these windows other than cost savings. (Or non availablity or preference i guess…)
Coming from someone that builds them. At least where I live the mechanism is proprietary so it may not exist for every extrusion profile. Plus for big enough doors/windows the hinges to bear the load either don’t exist or get expensive quick.
I’ve got an 80cm door with double pane glass (of course) and metal-pvc construction that does this. It’s pretty heavy, it’d have to be a huge window to be heavier than that.
PVC tends to be lighter than the thermal isolated aluminum we usually use. At least the stuff we have over here. (I work with steel and aluminum though. Never dealt extensively with PVC since it requires specific equipment).
Usually the problematic ones are the long “strip windows” (80cmx3 to 4 m) that some places use especially with argon filled glass panes (thick, layered double panes. With argon filling for emissivity. It may be what you have as well). But for them the style in the picture is usually set aside for a vasistas style closure. Which has an extra support for the panel. Paired with a pull string opening mechanism. I don’t know what’s the generic name.
Those only open via vasistas, you can’t swing around a 4m window lol.
Yeah. Didn’t think too hard about it, the idea for that project was to segment it and use tilt and turn. But in the end it was kept a singular window And wasistas was used with the string mechanism for commodity’s sake.
the change of plans we did made me brain fart… sorry It late over here 😅. still. I’ve made some doors that were too heavy For the tilt and turn hinges we normally use. Mostly due to weird glass pane requirements and sizes. The hinges could most likely handle it. But the specifications said otherwise.
Mine are aluminum frame, steel reinforcements, PVC is only the external layer:
That’s similar to what’s used over here. But iirc the aluminium is not in the ones I’ve seen only PVC and steel Reinforcements. Could be wrong though.
I’m quite sure is the same company though. That profile looks very similar.
That was my thought when I was living in Denmark. Why would You have windows that open horizontally to the outside in a country where it rains almost every day, when You can have these.
My current flat only has windows that open horizontally outwards. Even the windows on the gallery side open outwards, so I can’t open them all the way without preventing my neighbours from passing. It also rains inside constantly.
I guess. Over here its more common to have the screen on the interrior to make the screens easier to replace and/or clean. Here, it’s common for houses to have a 2nd or even 3rd floor so it’s not always easy to be able to access the screen from the outside.
Mine have hinges that open, you can remove them by pushing up to remove from the hinges. My parents have one with magnets, but i don’t recommend it. The magnets get rusty, and they aren’t that well attached, some screens fell and broke with stronger wind.
For american ones where you have a screen on the inside I have seen crank handles to push window out, or some have a tiny screen door in the screen you can open to reach the window latches, then close the tiny access door. It looks stupid, but it does work
I’m guessing that that is more annoying to operate. What is common here are casement windows which are operated with a hand crank so you dont have to remove the screen each time you need to open or close the window.
I have a removable screen with one of these windows. The window opens inwards, the screen basically clicks into the window frame from the inside and sits between the window itself and the frame. So the screen sits outside the window, but you can easily remove it from inside. You just open the window and pull the screen out of the window frame.
I have an insect screen which can be glued to the inside like so:
(There’s a white velcro strip already there, which you glue on before this step.)
But yeah, it isn’t a given that it fits there. I have an ancient window, where they didn’t use plastic or rubber yet, so they tried to seal the window by having it contact right where you’d glue the insect screen and then it obviously doesn’t fit in between (I tried 🫠).
Oh there’s many options. My windows are tiltable, they have (electric) roller shutters and bug screens.
Most of my screens roll up to the top (I have a little chain connected to the mechanism to roll it up and down), but I also have two doors whose screens’ mechanism works horizontally, with a spring, it locks closed with magnets, when you release it from the magnets it rolls open by itself. It’s even got a little cable-chain-like thing on the top and bottom to hold the screen, guide the movement and remove the gap.
And it can be removed from its frame with a snap catch, if you need to have the maximum opening to move something large through the door.
Did some quick research. It seems pretty difficult to install screens on these for some reason. So that’s probably why these are not common where I live.
In Poland these are common too. I fail to understand why someone would not install these windows in the first place
Because my house already has windows
Bro. You should try linux.
We have these windows, they are 35 years old and were most certainly not the first of this kind.
Yeah these windows already existed when wooden frames without seals and single panes were the standard. My grandmas house has them so basically at least for 50-60 years. There is no excuse not to have these windows other than cost savings. (Or non availablity or preference i guess…)
Coming from someone that builds them. At least where I live the mechanism is proprietary so it may not exist for every extrusion profile. Plus for big enough doors/windows the hinges to bear the load either don’t exist or get expensive quick.
I’ve got an 80cm door with double pane glass (of course) and metal-pvc construction that does this. It’s pretty heavy, it’d have to be a huge window to be heavier than that.
PVC tends to be lighter than the thermal isolated aluminum we usually use. At least the stuff we have over here. (I work with steel and aluminum though. Never dealt extensively with PVC since it requires specific equipment).
Usually the problematic ones are the long “strip windows” (80cmx3 to 4 m) that some places use especially with argon filled glass panes (thick, layered double panes. With argon filling for emissivity. It may be what you have as well). But for them the style in the picture is usually set aside for a vasistas style closure. Which has an extra support for the panel. Paired with a pull string opening mechanism. I don’t know what’s the generic name.
80x400cm horizontal? Those only open via vasistas, you can’t swing around a 4m window lol. I’ve seen those mostly paired with electrical actuators.
Mine are aluminum frame, steel reinforcements, PVC is only the external layer:
Check it out. Made in Italy.
Yeah. Didn’t think too hard about it, the idea for that project was to segment it and use tilt and turn. But in the end it was kept a singular window And wasistas was used with the string mechanism for commodity’s sake. the change of plans we did made me brain fart… sorry It late over here 😅. still. I’ve made some doors that were too heavy For the tilt and turn hinges we normally use. Mostly due to weird glass pane requirements and sizes. The hinges could most likely handle it. But the specifications said otherwise.
That’s similar to what’s used over here. But iirc the aluminium is not in the ones I’ve seen only PVC and steel Reinforcements. Could be wrong though. I’m quite sure is the same company though. That profile looks very similar.
That was my thought when I was living in Denmark. Why would You have windows that open horizontally to the outside in a country where it rains almost every day, when You can have these.
Windows that open to the outside? That’s bizarre. The ones I’m used to open horizontally but towards the inside.
My current flat only has windows that open horizontally outwards. Even the windows on the gallery side open outwards, so I can’t open them all the way without preventing my neighbours from passing. It also rains inside constantly.
That sounds quite annoying
Bugs. Lots and lots of bugs.
Nothing prevents one from installing a screen on those windows.
I guess. Over here its more common to have the screen on the interrior to make the screens easier to replace and/or clean. Here, it’s common for houses to have a 2nd or even 3rd floor so it’s not always easy to be able to access the screen from the outside.
I have screens on my 3rd floor windows. Mine are attached to the window frame with long thin velcro strips but I think there’s other systems as well.
Mine have hinges that open, you can remove them by pushing up to remove from the hinges. My parents have one with magnets, but i don’t recommend it. The magnets get rusty, and they aren’t that well attached, some screens fell and broke with stronger wind.
Do you need to remove the screen if you want to open the window?
The screen is on the outside. The window opens to the inside. So no.
For american ones where you have a screen on the inside I have seen crank handles to push window out, or some have a tiny screen door in the screen you can open to reach the window latches, then close the tiny access door. It looks stupid, but it does work
I think those are casement windows which are similar I think but not the same as tilt and turn windows.
You would be correct
Just get a detachable screen? We had them at my family home?
I’m guessing that that is more annoying to operate. What is common here are casement windows which are operated with a hand crank so you dont have to remove the screen each time you need to open or close the window.
You can still have the screen on the inside with these tiltable windows…
I cant see how without needing to remove the screen each time. I probably need to see a picture.
I have a removable screen with one of these windows. The window opens inwards, the screen basically clicks into the window frame from the inside and sits between the window itself and the frame. So the screen sits outside the window, but you can easily remove it from inside. You just open the window and pull the screen out of the window frame.
I see
I have an insect screen which can be glued to the inside like so:
(There’s a white velcro strip already there, which you glue on before this step.)
But yeah, it isn’t a given that it fits there. I have an ancient window, where they didn’t use plastic or rubber yet, so they tried to seal the window by having it contact right where you’d glue the insect screen and then it obviously doesn’t fit in between (I tried 🫠).
Oh there’s many options. My windows are tiltable, they have (electric) roller shutters and bug screens.
Most of my screens roll up to the top (I have a little chain connected to the mechanism to roll it up and down), but I also have two doors whose screens’ mechanism works horizontally, with a spring, it locks closed with magnets, when you release it from the magnets it rolls open by itself. It’s even got a little cable-chain-like thing on the top and bottom to hold the screen, guide the movement and remove the gap.
And it can be removed from its frame with a snap catch, if you need to have the maximum opening to move something large through the door.
That does sound p. cool. Unfortunately they do not appear to be well supported here T_T
Did some quick research. It seems pretty difficult to install screens on these for some reason. So that’s probably why these are not common where I live.
Weird research you did there, we have screens, even different types and they take 5 min to install. Hardest part is cutting it to size.
I thought these were doors. Them being windows makes a lot more sense.
Balcony doors work the exact same way
Including down?
yeah
You’ve been on very different balconies from the ones I know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIl3XqWFXHQ