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    6 months ago

    You are still here at this discussion in 2025? I don’t get it man, I really don’t.

    Did you understand that Harris was giving you a little treat just to continue a genocide? I guess by your comment that you are fine if those brown kids starve as long as you can still buy your favourite triple mcburger. Right? (͡•_ ͡• )

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      Your single-issue principles contributed to us being stuck again with Trump.

      And guess what? The kids are starving even worse now, and being gunned down, when they’re not being bombed. You must be really proud of yourself.

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        Guess what? Kamala will never beat Trump. Turns out neoliberalism wont beat Fascism. All she had to do was be an actual opposition. Crazy. I know its so hard to be against genocide, so hard!

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          “Kamala will never beat Trump”

          Yeah no shit because Democrats don’t run again after being beaten, and literally nobody is calling for her to run again. Why do you keep saying this stupid shit, like we’re all a bunch of Kamala fanboys and you’ve got some gotcha?

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            Its not a gotcha, she was never going to beat Trump ever. And they still ran her. Think about that.

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        6 months ago

        I know it’s hard to understand for you, but thank god I can’t vote in the states. I’m just telling you what it is, you can cover your eyes and ears if you like.

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          No you aren’t. You are boiling a complex problem down to a singular issue as if there was some mystical way to vote or abstain and not continue to have genocide issues in Palestine. No matter if you didn’t vote or voted for trump or voted for kamala this issue would still be there!

          In this scenario the option isn’t to lean full force into fascist theocracy and quite honestly, deeper genocide support with the republicans and Trump. The only reasonable choice was to mitigate all the other issues on the table.

          I’m glad you can’t vote here, because if you are too dumb to understand this dilema, then you are just like the people that contributed to this mess. So stay where you are please and thank you.

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            Complex problem? You do sound a lot like a zionist my dear. You act like there was not other option, but it was, and if you telling me you were dispersing votes, how come an outsider like Zoran won? So people do know how to organize and fight, you just didn’t want to before. Kamala was a safe, “not challenging my history” candidate, and you were okay with it.

            Bro, if this is the story you have to tell to be at peace with yourself and pretend to be the good guy, be my guest. I am just warning you, this is not how the rest of the world sees it.

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              Yes complex. If you can’t understand that this situation is complex, then you really need to hit the books more.

              I’m so glad Mamdani won. I hope more like him come out and I get a chance to vote for him or someone like him on a national scale.

              I’m no zionist. I hate israel and i die inside seeing the suffering they are causing and that my own fucking country blindly supports. I hate it and I hate that people like you can’t understand what it’s like to be stuck with no options to stopping it.

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                I’m honestly sorry about all the people stuck there. But, like many people in the south, you can move. You have options, you live in the richest country in the world.

                There is nothing to save here, kamala (like all politicians) was fucking with all of you, she is still is. She is now promoting her book, does she look concerned about gaza or the american collapse to you? Stop defending these rats, join communism. We have kittens.

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                  I WANT to leave. You think I have the 30k+ it takes to uproot my family and gtfo? Sorry to say, my country may be rich, but I certainly am not.

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                    I don’t know your situation but I know people moving with family when they had nothing (a plastic bag with clothes). I moved countries with 2k. I’m NOT saying is easy or not painful or there won’t be sacrifices but surely is better than full fascism. It is what it is man, Mexico is a nice place to stay, full of culture.

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                Yes complex. If you can’t understand that this situation is complex, then you really need to hit the books more.

                Liberals during a Holocaust

                I hate israel and i die inside seeing the suffering they are causing and that my own fucking country blindly supports.

                Except when it’s the Democrats doing it, then you say “it’s not that bad, it’s a complex single issue”

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          I can’t vote in the states

          Then what the hell makes you think we should give a shit about your stupid-assed opinion? STFU and worry about your own country.

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        Why not go direct that pompous judgmental energy at people who actually voted for Trump, instead of spending your time berating people for not wanting to keep enabling the massively undemocratic 2-party system that led to fascism in the first place?

        (Edit: I genuinely believe this subject gets astroturfed online, there is no way that there is really this big a percentage of cowards and dumbfucks out there who sincerely think that leftists are more to blame for Trump than actual Trump voters. Maybe you’re too timid to engage with Trump voters directly so it’s easier for you to stay in safe liberal spaces and bully the leftists there instead?)

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          Because the single-issue voters who refused to vote for Harris contributed to changing the 2-party system they had, to a 1-party system now.

          Do 3rd party activism between election cycles, not when MegaHitler is close to being elected.

          Edit: to whoever keeps replying to this old comment and getting banned: yes, genocide is an important issue. Now there’s one more genocide and the old one is being accelerated because Trump wants a Gaza beach resort. But keep telling me how Trump is better than Harris.

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      You realize that you openly condone the rise the rapid spread of neo-fascism with the strawman argument of a single flawed foreign policy, right? (͡•_ ͡• )

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        Uff, how the fuck do not see that the united states always has been a fascist country? Now it’s just idiot-fascist and it will kill itself thank god.

        And also single issue? Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria (recently) and many more… does it look single to you? This is a global aggressive superpower committing worldwide atrocities.