Yeah…this right here, this is why I am not getting my hopes up. The Democrats don’t view themselves as a force of history.
They don’t aspire to be the political leaders who will fight corruption, wrestle back control from oligarchs, or provide equality and prosperity to the people. They view themselves as managers.
A committee here, a senate hearing there… ‘What’s that? Trump accepted a bribe from the Russians? I’ll be sure to write a strongly worded letter!’
It’s fine. Remember we don’t take back Congress till January. Don’t get too miserable, friends. We can bulldoze the bastard then.
You know they’re fucking overpaid and underworked when all they do is show up for 15 minutes to vote and then leave. Every single member of Congress should be in that building from 8-5 every fucking weekday, 52 weeks a year.
You do know that they have responsiblities outside of DC in their home states? As well as committee responsiblities. Your comment identifies your ignorance of how the US government works.
What really needs to happen is a reform in how congress votes that allows them to vote remotely. This will also allow the House to expand and provide proportional representation, and would nearly eliminate the ability to gerrymander a district.
Lmao that’s not acceptable at any job site :D
They are still pushing this? We already know it’s not true. At least one person that skipped the vote was actually there according to witnesses (and I think video). The rest were at a fucking AIPAC event. We still have more work to do in 2028 to get rid of the rest of these Israeli shills.
The rest were at a fucking AIPAC event.
If true, then we must also consider who called the vote at such a stupid time.
Whoopsie doodles! We did another neoliberal fascism! Sorry bout that!
If I am absent for a meeting at work I get at least asked why, and would suffer consequences if the reasons are not valid.
I am by no means an essential worker or a lawmaker…
How the fuck do politicians dont get fired by these kind of things?
because it takes 2 years to fire a Representative.
America desperately need to implement recalls
sure the traffic, when the ones missing are all aipac donees. no ones falling for the republican deflection method right now by the dems.
So try again tomorrow, and be on time?
Try again in 2027 when the new congress take effect and the Democrats actually have a majority and not dependent on Republican dissidents, and presumably a Democratic speaker that isn’t interested in blocking the vote.
They still need Republican votes to convict. Unless there’s “traffic” and a bunch of Republican senators happen to not be there that day.
True, still a pretty slim chance, but at least a few less Republicans that would have to support the conviction.
11 out of 44 Republican senators. A full 25% would need to support it
That’s not happening.
Relevant supplement to this
Lawmakers Report That Some Democrats Missed Hegseth Impeachment Vote to Attend Event for ‘AIPAC Front Group’
How nice of them to put themselves on the list of people for serious Americans to vote against next election so early in the cycle. I thought it would take a few months for them to make themselves this known.
Oh what a joyful coincidence.
The traffic:
On its face, this seems like a dirty trick by Republicans. Mike Johnson called a recess, then after members left, called a snap vote on whether to proceed with impeachment with no warning. This entire spectacle reeks of a planned Republican scheme to try to influence the outcome through procedure and sow division within the Democratic party. The Republican House caucus was obviously made aware this was happening so they would stick around.
That any House Speaker can call a snap vote like this is a serious problem for our democracy.
So its ok for people to not do their jobs?
It’s okay to play idiotic games like this to elicit idiotic responses like yours?
If you’re at work and the manager says there’s a break, so you decide to take an early lunch because the break is long enough, only to find the manager waited until team members left before changing his mind so he could reprimand you for not being at work… you’d be like “oh my bad”?!
Get a clue. I am no fan of politicians but this kind of immature game has no place in society.
But you have to be smart enough to know that’s a possibility. That’s a trick that they’ve used before and has been used before for decades. A good leader, someone good at whipping votes, has to be aware of these tricks and has to be ready for them. A good leader would be able to keep his people ready for this kind of trick. There was only a small window they could have pulled it in.
its thier "remind that have to vote for us party, or we wont give you money " event.
So, the israelis threw a party way the fuck in nowhere right before a critical vote, and there just happened to be a huge traffic jam blocking their only path back to vote?
So, throw a party then crash a truck to continue their war of genocide uninterrupted. It’s what their fictional gawd told them to do. Everything is justified by a fictional being that lives in their religious psychopathy.
ahhh, the dog ate my homework excuse.
Where was the minority whip ? fucking around as well?
Hot stone massage at aipac hq. All week. israel doesnt want the Iran war questioned or challenged in any way, and the dems are willing to tie us all to the ‘trolley problem’ tracks to keep Israels wars going. “Whatever Israel needs”
Can we just start eating people
Easy to spatchcock when they’ve got no spine
👨🍳🤌🫴
It wasn’t an impeachment vote. It was a vote to send it to committee which is what the Republicans wanted to delay. The vote was moved up and closed early by Johnson. In all honesty, any impeachment needs to be done in January because it will actually pass the Senate and Dems would control the approval of the nomination.
impeachment needs to be done in January because it will actually pass the Senate
No, it won’t. It would require 11 Republican senators to reach the required 2/3rds super majority
Why is a vote allowed to go through it representatives are stuck in traffic
Because Johnson. He was aware people were en route and closed the vote.
Its also misleading, its “some of the 11”. Pelosi was in CA for a veterans day event, another was going in for a medical procedure, another had an unrelated (and unspecified) personal emergency, like 4 said they were stuck in traffic (motorcade blocking traffic), and I think it was 2 at the AIPAC event.
Not excusing anything here BTW, just pointing out the title is kinda shitty.
The vote didn’t actually matter, so I imagine a lot of reps didn’t really prioritize it
They jnderstand it’s just political theater, even if the general piblic somehow does not. It always was 100% guaranteed it would not end in a conviction
I would disagree. The vote mattered because the public doesn’t understand it. Just because its a referral to the Judiciary Committee doesn’t really matter here, what mattered was the perception.
Just look through a lot of this thread.
I mean, everyone not being in attendance can’t automatically delay votes, or anyone could unilaterally block a vote by just not showing up. However, I think we all know why the vote was moved up and closed early - it’s specifically because they were stuck in traffic.
They shouldn’t have needed to be at a specific location to vote for more than 100 years… How is it still allowed to be an excuse.
Alternatively
Having been required to be at a specific location to vote for more than 100 years is probably a good reason to be at the location
I know how is OK for these people to not do their jobs.
They wouldn’t have called the vote if they were at the location.
West Wing did an episode prominently featuring this kind of bullshit.
Yeah agree, this has happened in my country too - I think they could have been more aware of the risk, especially at the moment.
I’m actually not sure it will pass the senate even after we get 54 DNC Senators in because I’m pretty sure it’s still 60 to remove even though it was 50 + VP to confirm? It’s a little confusing.
It’s a 2/3rds super majority require for an impeachment conviction to remove him from office
It never had any chance of passing, which every member of congress knew
It needs a 2/3 majority in the Senate to convict in the senate, so yes, it seems very unlikely to go through.
2/3 of all senators present. So if there is traffic and a few Republicans miss the vote, that’s just too bad.
It’s 2/3 of members present, so 67 if all senators show up.
