Just never really heard of anyone in all my years go to their PCP and get an “upper”. But have heard a bunch go to their doctor’s for something for less anxiety, make you sleepy, methadone, morephine hell even now weed. and again NOT SEEKING MEDICAL ADVICE. Only one I have heard of is a B12 shot but that’s probably replaced by the vitamin.
EDIT: 2 Hours later and this became an ADHD forum lol. Is that the only one?
Depending on country, but most people with ADHD are pretty much prescribed meth.
Hospitals even keep cocaine on site to use as a blood vessel constrictor.
ADHD meds are not meth. They’re chemically similar, but H2O2 is just one oxygen away from water. The meds are stimulants, yes, but the popular “it’s meth” thing is a misrepresentation.
One thing i don’t understand is in what cases does literal meth have to be prescribed, and why? (Desoxyn)
I’ve never seen it prescribed nor seen anyone researching it, I wonder if it’s a US thing?
amphetamine != meth
Of course not, lol
methamphetamine == meth
Yup. A lot of ADHD meds are stimulants.
The most successful ones are stimulants yes. But methamphetamine is neurotoxic, and seldomly perscribed (though remains an option for reasons unbeknownst to me). The stimulants Methylphenidate ADHD Amphetamine salts are neuroprotective. But there’s also non-stimulants like amoxitine, guanfacine, clonidine, and bupropion, which are not neurotoxic.
Doctors can still prescribe cocaine as a topical anesthetic, and ADHD patients regularly get prescriptions for amphetamines. But I thought you were a nurse?
It’s not a good idea to approach a doctor looking for substances. Better on the dark web if you are seeking to get high. Doctors respond to symptoms, not prescription requests.
I thought you were a nurse
Sister is she’s in NY going thru some stuff, Ever since she was diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer’s she been very away from things. There’s a whole story to it but, no I am not.
Accounts are free, why not have your own?
It’s easier this way and we usually get shit stirred up a little bit for another to take on. It’s kind of our way to screw with one another. We email back in forth on stuff to watch out for or read if it is insiteful and such. And plus I think it helps my sis when she logs on from time to time when she is in a city she doesn’t know. LW is kind of like throwing a party at home with no clean up. We have met many great people here each in our own way. But like the Joker once said: If I am going to have a past let it be multiple choice. Plus how else can we screw with you guys and gals ;)
ADHD meds.
Steroids. You want some energy in your life, get prescribed some of that. Getting off of them really hits home how much they work, even when you taper off.
i love amphetamines as much as the next guy but let’s not forget modafinil also exists
What’s that
Stimulant prescribed for narcolepsy. Also what military pilots use instead of amphetamine since around year 2000.
Interesting that no one mentioned antidepressants. They’re more long term uppers, but I still would broadly put them in the “upper” category.
Most ADHD meds would likely fall under “uppers” (amphetamines). Many antidepressants probably would be labeled “uppers” though they aren’t stimulants in quite that way. Many steroids are prescribed for various things (I’ve been given them to try and kick a nasal infection without using antibiotics) and would probably be considered “uppers”.
I’m sure there’s more I’m forgetting.
Had a stomach bug one time. Went to the ER (in hindsight I probably didn’t need to go). They were giving me fluids and something that had me crawling out of my skin. I just felt like I needed to move but I had an IV and monitors hooked up to me. Then they pushed some benadryl and I came floating down from that previous high. No idea what the stimulant was, but I did not like that feeling.
They probably gave you Reglan for nausea, but one of the side effects is basically what you described, especially if given too fast. Benadryl is the “antidote” for lack of a better word.
I hate giving Reglan for that reason and its why I always give it diluted and slow if I have no other choice.
Holy, that almost sounds worse than nausea
Until i remember how bad nausea is
I go to my PCP for PCP.
Amphetamine based medications are used for adhd - the primary thing adhd means is not enough serotonin, so amphetamines counter that directly. I am on Lysdexamphetamin-<something>, it does help
Usually adhd is more associated with issues in dopaminergic systems, but reducing it to that doesn’t really do the phenomenon justice.
Do doctors even prescribe benzos outside of like super short term use, anti-seizure medication or procedures?
Not anymore. At least they shouldn’t.
They even took my lunesta away from me :(
Most ADHD medication (ritalin, etc) is basically just medical grade methamphetamine.
No, it’s not.
Adderall is literally just four different types of amphetamines.
There is an uncommonly-prescribed ADHD drug called Desoxyn that is literally just meth.
Being an amphetamine doesn’t mean a drug is “basically meth”.
Would you say DXM is basically Ketamine because both are dissociative drugs?
Is the below confusing?
There is an uncommonly-prescribed ADHD drug called Desoxyn that is literally just meth.
Dxm and ketamine have similar effects on similar neurotransmitters, but not identical. Amphetamine and methamphetamine have identical effects on the same receptors, one just stick around longer.
Analogy: dxm is taking a bus down the street, ketamine is taking truck down the street. Amphetamine is driving your car going 70, meth is driving your car going 85.
They don’t have identical effects, otherwise one wouldn’t work better for an individual than others.
Correct. Much like there is a difference between driving 70 and 85.
Some people, going 70 just doesn’t cut it.
No. They each have different effects on the brain. Stimulants work on several different mechanisms of action, and how much they affect the various mechanisms varies by drug.
Amphetamines and methamphetamine are not the same. Different chemicals have different effects.
Meth is definitely meth though.
And one of the drugs prescribed for ADHD is literally pharmaceutical-grade meth.
I guess let’s ignore that though because ita convenient.
There is an uncommonly-prescribed ADHD drug called Desoxyn that is literally just meth.
In this case they have the same effects, one is just stronger.
If you’ve never taken either or seen anybody on either and know almost nothing about either, then sure, I guess you could say that.
Having taken both and having worked a stint in pharmaceutical R+D, I can tell you they’re pretty much the same thing. One’s a bit stronger than the other.
