• Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org
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    And now he says we’re going to call AI ‘superintelligence’. You can’t make it smarter than people just by calling it smarter than people.”

    I actually laughed out loud. 😄

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    it’s incredible how many godfathers ai has. i’ve lost count

    weird i never hear about the godmothers though. wonder why that is?

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      Because there aren’t many women in STEM so it’s statistically unlikely?

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        Except for individuals like Ada Lovelace, Admiral Grace Hopper, Margaret Hamilton, Hedy Lamarr, and the many other women who greatly contributed to the field of computer science and engineering.

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            Honestly I’d even be surprised if people knew Ada Lovelace. Most people dont even know Charles Babbage who laid out the analytical machine she wrote her programs for.

            Unless they’re already on that broadly nerdy Lemmy/Reddit style of fun facts that get shared quite frequently.

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                Maybe its changed since I’ve been in grade/high school over 15 years ago, but I dont really recall anything about Babbage in my history classes or programming electives.

                My history classes focused mostly the major ancient civilizations, and US history from the colonial 1600s to the civil rights act and moon landing 1960s. The history of computation and computer science is very lacking here in the US.

                Most of my knowledge of the important computer science people comes initially from Numberphile and Computerphile. Almost every one of those names I’ve pulled in my previous came from having to google stuff like influential woman computer scientists.

                Besides elsewhere in this thread is someone literally saying none of the names I’ve mentioned were anywhere in their AI research curriculum for university.

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          There are many women who were computer science pioneers, but few in AI. That is actually an interesting discrepancy. Now I’m wondering if perhaps women are too pragmatic to fall for AI or it has something to do with women producing real intelligence through childbirth. Or maybe it’s a more misogynist field. Or the blind spot is mine. I honestly don’t know.

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            Margaret Boden, Karen Spärk Jones, Pamela McCorduck, Ruzena Bajczy, Janice Lourie.

            All women heavily involved with ai research in the 1960s that laid foundations for ai and all fields of computer science.

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              I studied AI in university. Why do I not recognise any of these names?

              I guess misogynist erasure of women is the asnwer I was looking for.

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                Even going back to Margaret Hamilton, the entire field of Software Engineering which she functionally created at NASA is basically a tech tree prerequisite to modern AI.

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      a woman think that she might be good enough in a given field when she knows more than 99% of it while a man pretends to be an expert if he knows 10%.

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    our biggest challenge will be accepting we’re not the only intelligent beings

    But it isn’t challenging at all. All animals have some level of intelligence. Some of them even rather comparable to us. And the probability of existence of some aliens doesn’t sound too crazy, they might be quite clever too. See no problem in acceptance here.

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        I read some popular-science paper where they claimed that mice even have friends. That demands some nontrivial intelligence I think.

        Super intelligent

        But I suppose Trump is somewhat cleverer than a mouse.

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          I read some popular-science paper

          The mice that I was thinking about have been researched by the famous Douglas Adams, and they were by far the most intelligent beings on this planet, as long as they stayed here.

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      I don’t accept the computer as intelligent or a being, and I love my computer (it’s objectively an inanimate object tho).

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      That’s extremely challenging for a lot of people. A lot of people aren’t even willing to accept animals experience pain.

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        Are you sure? Most probably those people don’t care about their pain, not denying that it is registered by the animal’s brain.

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          Absolutely. I used the word “experience” and not “feel” intentionally here. People who raise and kill animals for a living try to think of animals like meat robots, they want to believe pain is just something animals sense rather than a subjective experience.

          Sometimes, they successfully fool themselves so they don’t have to feel bad for the animals they hurt and kill. Other times they develop all sorts of disorders and addictions. Sometimes they kill themselves.

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      Oh the people with jobs in peril, they are definitely in a state of denial about the state of AI. It’s easier to accept when your survival doesn’t depend on your ability to think and do things.

      On a funnier note the people who believe they are genetically superior to others and naturally smarter, those people probably won’t accept this at all

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        The ability to accomplish tasks is not in and of itself an indicator of intelligence, and “intelligence” in the context of AI is a misnomer.

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    Not surprising that someone who evangelized artificial neural networks and algorithms like backpropagation at a time when people had largely written them off would have an inflated view of the technology’s potential.

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    His peer, Yann LeCunn, seems to have a better perspective, basically stating that letting companies like Anthropic have a monopoly is the real threat to humanity: https://en.koreadaily.com/yann-lecun-ai-threat-humanity/

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    I’m willing to be selfish and choose humans

    Is the selfishness in the room with us?

    In all serious, choosing humans over AI of any type is always the correct answer.

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    But if the current batch of ‘AI’ had delicious meat, would we still eat them?