Direct link to the LLM Policy Discussion: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/work_items/187
Example of KDE dev rejecting environmental consideration:
Example of KDE devs not wanting to require LLM use be disclosed.
And all of this is coming right after the debacle with an AI slop project being allowed to give a presentation at Akademy, and the person asking how this was allowed being blocked by KDE:
https://lemmy.nz/post/42029517
as well as the discussion thread bringing up legitimate concerns about AI usage being closed:
https://discuss.kde.org/t/sorry-to-bring-up-a-contentious-topic-kde-ai-llm-policy/46333/164
As someone who genuinely loves KDE, and has even donated to the project multiple times, I sadly have to accept that the majority of KDE have hopped onto the Pro-AI train, and they will not be dissuaded otherwise.
This is EXTREMELY disappointing. KDE is my favourite DE.
This. Dunno where I’m going to go once KDE starts collapsing under the weight of AI slop. XFCE maybe? Do they have an AI policy? What’s Cosmic looking like these days?
Xfce have embraced AI with their new Wayland compositor.
Cosmic accepts AI code, but according to them, they take a preemptively hostile view toward AI code submissions and will rewrite some parts by hand.
There’s some lists linked in the comments here of DE’s that reject all AI.
Maybe you should reconsider your outdated views instead. Why are you even using linux to begin with, considering the kernel also allows “ai slop”?
That’s like telling a vegan to update their views and eat meat.
There are many legitimate reasons to want to avoid AI code and avoid encouraging corporate AI use. Not all of us have to adopt your views on AI.
The differerence is being a vegan affects you, and the world is pretty accomodating to it. Vegan options everywhere these days. Non-AI repos are getting ultrarare and will only get more so.
Using a project with AI code simply doesn’t affect you. KDE is open source, using it doesn’t contribute to anything, doesn’t encourage and AI corporation, doesn’t contribute to water/power usage during training, etc… If the maintainers check the PRs propely you won’t be affected whatsoever.
Outdated views, huh? Tell me you’re deluded without telling me.
Not sure how this affects what I said. Having an anti-ai policy simply doesn’t work, you’d know that if you worked on any open source projects at all. There’s a reason all sane projects, like linux and now kde, end up accepting AI code. You can keep retreating to the next DE/WM until there’s none left but the ultra niche whose entire point is it doesn’t use AI, but it also has no contributor.
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