• Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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        Those are airlines. Expect that type of service to begin as soon as you enter airport property instead of just when you’re interacting with the airline itself.

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          Airports are already run by independent organizations called airport authorities, who build up everything around the airport and the airport itself. I don’t think these authorities are going away, just adding members to their boards through investors. The airport authorities in Canada are all NGOs. In these cases, the airlines will be dealing with the authorities’ board members, and all will want to keep people flying so I don’t see a huge downgrade incoming.

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            The current Airport Authorities are non-profit organizations… Who would “invest” without the expectation of a ROI? even if the AAs are not going away, they will be overran by the new investors

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              Yes they are NGOs, and the infrastructure isn’t growing enough to meet the growing need. As Carney just said in his questions to the media, we need investment. So where is it going to come from?

              Hear it from the horse’s mouth. The first and third questions are directly relating to the airport investments. It sounds reasonable to me.

              Carney answers questions at investment summit. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1MneiwFyo&pp=ygUIY2JjIG5ld3M%3D

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                and the infrastructure isn’t growing enough to meet the growing need.

                Source?

                we need investment. So where is it going to come from?

                So how exactly are we protecting ourselves from the mad neighbour when all Carney seems bent on doing is selling valuable parts of our house to that very neighbour? We will end up with a Canada that is even more of a copy of the dumpter fire Murica is right now… I’d rather see it all go down in flames

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                  My source is that video I posted, which I’m assuming you didn’t watch, where Carney states something to the effect of what I stated. This plan creates investment in all airports as the money collected from some private investment is in turn invested in the smaller airports to help Canadians get around the country easier.

                  There’s money in more places than the US. Watch that video and learn from one of the best economists in the world and tell everyone Carney didn’t think this is in the best interest of Canadians.

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                    My source is that video I posted, which I’m assuming you didn’t watch, where Carney states something to the effect of what I stated.

                    I did watch it, he does say the same line you posted but provides no backing for it. What are the growing needs? what is pending that has not been done?

                    This plan creates investment in all airports as the money collected from some private investment is in turn invested in the smaller airports to help Canadians get around the country easier.

                    Again, is that an actual problem? Do people in Gatineau complain they need to drive to Ottawa instead of using the tiny Gatineau landing strip?

                    I would argue that the real issue is the enormous cost of air travel and privatizing the airports is really not going to help with any of that

                    There’s money in more places than the US. Watch that video and learn from one of the best economists in the world and tell everyone Carney didn’t think this is in the best interest of Canadians.

                    Carney is a banker… look at what he is doing: selling Canadian assets to whomever will buy them, eliminate environmental regulation, cut tax for the rich… how is that ANY DIFFERENT from what the Orange rapist is doing down south? How will any of that lead to a better Canada for the regular people? I can tell you that it will push some numbers and make the rich richer but the only hope for ANY of this to improve regular Canadians is for the money to “trickle down” which has been debunked 100000x over

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            This same argument was made about sports complexes and the Internet as a whole. Enshittification is a real thing, and this is exactly the sort of move that drives it.

            Sure they’ll still provide service, but you’ll be data mined, forced to watch and respond to ads, services will be gutted, security will be even more theatre than it already is — because there’s no alternative. This is a monopoly stake.

            HOWEVER, for the select few, there will be private airport services for those who can pay. These services will avoid this race to the bottom until the larger service collapses under borrowing against future growth for current profits.

            Why am I so sure of all this?

            Because that’s how this playbook has ALWAYS played out. Every. Single. Time. And somewhere in there, regulatory capture rears its head as well.

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              Maybe you’re right, but then people just won’t go, or they’ll go to alternative airports which have now been invested in thanks to the influx of capital from the big four airports.

              To think you’re not already all of those things is naive, I’m sorry to say. There’s already tons of ads around airports. You’re already surveiled. Your info is collected and sold to companies. And, there is already a nicer tier for those willing to pay.

              What this sounds like to me is more of the same, maybe to a higher degree, but we’ll have infrastructure in the end.

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                So which airports well they go to? You know not every airport has international flights and this well not change that.

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                How do people go to alternative airports?

                For example, the closest airport to YVR is Abbotsford. Except it doesn’t service the same routes. So you end up having to drive to Seattle, Calgary or Edmonton to fly to… Seattle, Calgary or Edmonton?

                The other airports listed have similar issues; for the services they provide, they are a regional monopoly.

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        All the Canadian airports I’ve been to have been top notch. That includes YYZ, YYC, YHM, and YWG. In a month I’ll in YVR for another data point. They’ve all been wonderful, professional, clean, and fast. Way faster than the ones I’ve been in USA and Mexico.

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          I agree they’re clean, but they pale in comparison in terms of service, entertainment, professionalism, and competence against airports I’ve been to in Asia like Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, and China.