cross-posted from: https://scribe.disroot.org/post/11304547
Canada is negotiating a contribution to the European Union’s €90 billion loan for Ukraine as Prime Minister Mark Carney seeks to strengthen ties with Europe and reduce his country’s dependence on the United States.
The Financial Times cited Yevropeiska Pravda, quoting people briefed on the discussions that Ottawa and Brussels hope to agree on the size of Canada’s contribution before the EU-Canada summit in Montreal in late October.
Carney has sought to build an alliance of liberal countries committed to a multilateral international order that has been disrupted by the policies of US President Donald Trump, according to the report. Supporting the Ukraine loan would allow Canada to further demonstrate its commitment to its European allies.
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You didn’t raise any points, you spread misinformation points straight out of the russian handbook on account so young it might as well be in the neo-natal ward.
Never called you a bot, you are either colonized by miss-information, or a bad actor… but not a bot.
Ah yes, not totally SS, but just SS enough. Got it.
There are fascists fighting on both the Ukrainian and the Russian side. Fascism and ultra-nationalism is not a uniquely Ukrainian issue, it is a post-USSR-space problem. However, arguably there is HUGE difference in terms of the political position of fascists and their claims to political hegemony in each country.
In Ukraine, the fascists do NOT have political hegemony. They are literally forced to obey a russophone-born Jew whose grandfather was a Red Army colonel and has family that died in the holocaust. Electorally they have been ridiculously small, at small single digit numbers. Even with the booster shot that Putin conveniently gave them by making heroes out of them, Ukrainian society has not embraced them and Ukrainian institutions have not capitulated to them. This is also because they are massively constrained by Ukraine’s bid to present itself as a the bastion of “european liberalism”: they don’t have the freedom of movement and initiative to agitate for fascism because the Ukrainian state depends on us western liberal bleeding hearts for its survival and because its strategic objective is european integration, with which hegemonic overt fascism is incompatible. They are still be influential because of their war stripes (thanks Vlad…) but they have to “play by the rules” and play the game at the Meloni level, not the Kassidiaris level.
On the other hand, Russian fascists are operating in an explicitly ultranationalist, militaristic and illiberal space, with an openly and avowedly anti-liberal and traditionalist official ideology and doctrine. The putinist oligarchic regime depends on the depoliticization of the citizenry for its survival, actively suppresses every democratic right that russians ever had, and is deeply integrated with the schismatic Russian orthodox church, which is lead by a paranoid lunatic who blesses nuclear weapons and sacralizes the russian armed forces. Where Ukrainian fascists are politically constrained, Russian fascists are sometimes capable to set the agenda through the “military bloggers” sphere, and are so strong that at some point they even got to threaten the regime, as the Wagner melodrama showed (yes they lost, but if you think that after Prigozhin, the Wagner fascists have not been accommodated in the regime, I have a steel factory in Mariupol to sell you). But more generally, they are a very well functioning apparatus of a state that is ideologically extremely well aligned with them.
Where Ukrainian fascists are denied hegemony for the survival of the state, Russian fascists are coopted by the state and sometimes even threaten it. The political climate in Russia gives the fascists every boon and accommodation they might wish for. I can’t think of a place where it would be easier to do fascist politics. Like, if there was a “let’s play fascist ideological hegemony” video game, Russia would be the …tutorial level, while Ukraine would be at least one level up from normal difficulty.
And, let’s be honest: the fascists on both sides are much stronger today precisely because of Putin deciding to invade. If you’re looking for “who carrries water for fascism”, look to the Kremlin aqueduct…
I wouldn’t dispute any of this. It’s factual.
Can i ask you an honest question? How much of an opponents military needs to be SS-like before its ok for you to invade a country, claim its land, and kill its citzens?
If 1/1000 military members are nazis, can you invade them? 1/100? 1/10? At what point is it ok to target civilizans with drones?, blow up shopping centers, Blow up a maternity ward. “yes, officer, i orchestrated the rape of thousands of women, but 1/10 of their military remind me of the SS”
Let me ask you an honest question: there’s been over 2 million casualties between both sides.
Is the motivation for your interest in this war to see revenge against an atrocity ordering mercenary commander who already died on a plane 3 years ago.
Or do you actually have any interest in seeing an end to the killing right now?
If you think the Ukrainian military are going to assassinate the Russian president or take Moscow, I’m sorry but that’s a dream. If you think Putin’s popularity is waning, it isn’t. He’s at like 83%.
This is a war of attrition that could go on for another 2 years at least. Hundreds of thousands or more could die.
This conflict needs diplomacy, Ukraine needs elections. And their military needs to get rid of the shitty Nazi medals, patches, tattoos and nationalist bullshit.
If Russia stops, the war stops, if Ukraine stops, it no longer exists.
nice way to ignore the question.
Since you are using reports that some precentage of the military is SS-like, how much a military has to be SS before you think its OK to murder children and rape women?
Answer the question, or run away.
I already answered it. You just didn’t understand the answer. Consider re-reading it and thinking before you start a retort.
you dont answer a question by starting: “Let me ask you an honest question: there’s been over 2 million casualties between both sides.”
So, since you seem slow, I’ll be kind, and ask it for a third time. Please try and not run away… again:
I made a personal declaration to Lemmy’s moderators that I would have good faith conversations with other users. That doesn’t include allowing personal disagreements fall into petty insult wars or ego trips. As such, I can’t continue this communication exchange on this subject. I’ll leave it at agreeing to disagree.
Thank you for being honest that you cant answer a super simple question. Im really sadened that we cant find a common ground, like “rape is bad”
When asked three times to back up your statement that there is a specific amount of SS-like military which would permit a russia-like attack on a population, you chose to run away. I asked you the same question three times, and you were unable to say “Rape, murder, attacks on hospitals are always wrong”, a simple statement of facts.
on another note, it is odd that a 15 day old account had make a “personal declaration to Lemmy’s moderators that I would have good faith conversations with other users.”, as if you are a know bad actor…