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    We need smartphones that we can actually own and control. Root access with locked bootloader and good security.

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    Backflip seems like a stretch from what the article says. But when Googles policies have me seriously considering if avoiding the walled garden was worth it, its a pretty unfortunate slip that says a lot about what Apple’s leadership is thinking.

    I think we’ve all seen the enshitification playbook enough to know “accept or not now” just means its a matter of time before its not an option.

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      The Google garden has its own walls now, doesn’t it? Aren’t they preventing side loading of apps now (or soon)? I’m not sure what other walls do or don’t exist at this point.

      I have an Android phone, and I like Android better than Apple, but these days I’m struggling to see much difference between the two brands.

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        Restricting the easyness (for now).
        Still fully available to do.

        Edit:
        Regarding the difference between Android and Apple:

        • Android is still more open
        • The operation and what you are able to do on macOS vs Linux vs Windows and Android vs iOS is waay different.
          • Try mounting an SMB share on macOS. Soo different vs just being able to do it on Windows/Linux and also mounting the subfolder instead of the top-level dir.
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      Do you consent to this shit? [ ] yes. [ ] ask me again later*.

      • we reserve the right to change out terms at any time, including the pretense of the above question.
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    No way? Apple? OMG… They’d never… Would they?

    In case people haven’t worked it out, Apple’s business model has always been screw-everyone, to the point that they even sent out letters to other resellers customers (at a unrelated Apple reseller) to buy Applecare…

    In fact, I would be surprised if they also weren’t using the App store metrics to identify ideas/apps they should copy and target too (or, companies to buy).

    If you spent money for that lovely premium computer hardware they sell, you only get updates for a few years, if you bought it at the end of the cycle.

    If you remember Antennagate, Steve bent himself out of place to pretend their problem was the same as their competitors.

    Multi-Touch phone. “Oh we patented that”. They’d hate for their customers to mistake them for inventing multitouch. All those customers who came into our reseller who heard “macs can’t get viruses” were just their own stupidity. Not misleading advertising

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      If you spent money for that lovely premium computer hardware they sell, you only get updates for a few years, if you bought it at the end of the cycle.

      in a few exceptional cases around the very well known architecture transition that was announced in 2020. They will maintain older mac OSes that are intel compatible, so intel not completely unsupported.

      Aside from that, Macs typically get many years of OS updates.

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        Apple only updates their computers for about 6-7 years. After that, no new MacOS updates. Architecture changes are unrelated, but, yes, they did that twice in the past 20 years (Microsoft and Linux both support mostly the same architectures they always did, with the itanium builds, or other funky architectures that never succeeded).

        In contrast, even Microsoft only JUST broke backwards compatibility with old processors (and, have only done it once)… And I’m not even sure that’s a hard cut off (as, I’ve seen older CPU’s than 7XXX series with windows 11 being sold)

        Apple profits on both the OS, and the hardware directly. They’re in full control, and it isn’t as though they need to support a RANGE of hardware. And they charge a premium for this hardware.

        As BJW mentioned, even worse, developers hoping to develop for Mac OS or IOS NEED to buy an Apple computer to ensure compatibility with the latest builds. Microsoft doesn’t force you to buy a Surface if you want to develop for them. On Linux, you don’t need a specific system either

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          with windows 11 it depends a bit, there’s cpus you were able to install win11 with some workarounds but that due to missing cpu instruction sets can’t run newer builds

          so the latest win11 major update running on a machine below official system requirements is no guarantee of the next one doing so as well

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        Lol. Right… That’s why my MacBook Pro is collecting dust while the spec-inferior MacBook Air I was required to purchase to keep getting OS updates is now my development machine… 🙄

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          Yeah, I bought a Mac Studio, Mac Pro, and used to own a powerMac G5. The worst part was that Apple sucks at GPU’s and always did. I dumped my Mac Pro when I realised the GPU was totally crap compared to PC half the price on the market, and there was no official way to update it, and keep using MacOS. I could switch GPU, but, Mac OS wouldn’t have the drivers.

          It was super embarressing. Despite only needing to support a handful of GPU’s, Apple still didn’t offer a long timeframe of support for that system. The only solution was buy a whole new computer

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          You don’t need to run macos on that older machine.

          I distinctly remember how at some point the “best all around laptop for running windows” was a MacBook pro,

          Ofc by now more people are catching on they are much bettered served with linux…

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            That would be GRAND if Apple didn’t unnecessarily lock iOS compiling to only the very latest MacOS, and iOS application development is the only reason I even own Apple products.

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        golden gate, out tomorrow iirc, the first macos that’s apple silicon only, and the last to support intel applications via compatibility layer.

        tahoe, the previous version and last to support intel cpu, will get two more years of updates. the last intel cpu mac wasn’t discontinued until 2023.

        there is no further upgrade path from apple for anything that cannot run golden gate. it’s e-waste to most, a linux goldmine for a few. just like every pre-8th gen era windows pc, but at least with windows you can trick the current version to run on the relics that don’t ‘officially’ support it.

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      I earn my paycheck with photoshop, premiere and lightroom. I am trapped in the apple ecosystem and I’m being held hostage by Adobe, an m5 macbook pro is the best way for me to edit pictures with on a 10 hour flight without the battery crapping out. If there was an alternative, I would buy it in a second.

      I have 4 thunderbolt ports, good battery life, decent silicon but a shit OS that’s just slightly better than windows 11. Somebody please build an alternative that supports Creative Cloud because I’m tired of getting fucked in the ass.

      Hell, while you’re at it build something open source to replace Creative Cloud and make it the industry standard.

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    People need to learn that Apple is like all companies and treat consumer friendly actions like any other feature to add or cut when they think it is the best competitive advantage they have to play.

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      I don’t like Apple. I find their UI to be hard to use and counter-intuitive. Their walled garden / vendor lock-in is a model of monopoly behavior that is terrible.

      However, unlike most other US tech giants when you use their stuff you are the customer, not the product. It is in Apple’s interest to keep their customers happy.

      So on one hand it is surprising that they would upset their customers like this.

      However, capitalism dictates that if their is also a chance of making money by making you both the customer and the product, Apple has to take it.

      So on the other hand completely unsurprising. 😅

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        as a public company, it was bound to happen. shareholders ultimately come before the customer. Just because they weren’t the product, doesn’t mean apple actually cares about the consumer

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        Oh that was some good capilitist propaganda. Apple wants to keep customers “happy”. Oh I get tickled thinking people are naive enough to believe this crap. Thanks for making my day.

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          Keep their customers happy… this was a company that tried to charge people more than the price of a new car for a personal computer in the 90s.

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    Stopped updating my iPhone 16 Pro in hopes of jailbreaking it one day, it would be nice to find a Linux phone as well someday with decent hardware.

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      Have a look at Volla Plinius.

      Still figuring it out, camera software definitely lacking, waydroid support still in development xD But hey, I love this thing.

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      Same here. The hardware is not bad but oh boy is the software the biggest pile of shit I’ve ever had to use. And I want to use my librem 5 (linux) phone but you need a stack of pokemon cards as batteries if you want it to last a day. They really should sell a charging deck for spare batteries so you can hot swap them.

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    I had to go into each app’s security settings and opt out of allowing Apple Intelligence.

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    I always assumed that they were just lying about their “privacy commitment”. No corpo type is going to be able to resist leaving that much data on the table. Nonetheless people quite prepared to eat up for the claim and criticise Google, who at least honest about it, it was a completely unfounded claim made by the company itself the very people most incentivize to lie.

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    Reminder: Some models reported to regenerate stuff close to their training material in the right circumstances, could be seen as a kind of industrial espionage laundering.

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    After nokia N9 I got the Jolla phone. Then the Jolla C. Eventually as Jolla was struggling at the time my work e-mails did not work etc.

    I had to make a choice between pest and cholera.

    I chose apple as it was more privacy oriented at least in talks.

    But if that “promise” flies also out of window…then what?

    Does a phone that one can truly own and also works in corporate setting (sideload intune in a separate container) exists? Something that works with as litlle as possible tuning to make it work? Something that our IT department approves? Banking apps need to work.

    I’m open for suggestions nevertheless I feel like we are prisoners in some sense.

    I used to have a separate work phone but carrying two phones all the time got annoying after a couple of years.