• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    8 hours ago

    In that case, since I am not an accelerationist, I believe it to be more valuable to bring about revolution by voting for communist/socialist parties than to try to extend the effectiveness of imperialism by entrenching the democrats. If communists and socialists front policy that is widely popular yet consistently loses to the DNC and GOP, or wins and is defanged by capitalists and the state, this increases revolutionary potential by correctly showing the working classes why electoralism is a dead-end. Entrenching the DNC retains the illusion that the system can be reformed.

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      7 hours ago

      That’s a long way of saying voting for communists doesn’t work.

      So you’d throw trans, black and Hispanic people under the bus so working people can realize that electoralism is a dead end by letting Republicans win, even though everyone already feels that way. Cool.

      I think there’s more effective tactics that will get people to be motivated for voter reform.

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        7 hours ago

        What do you think “work” means? If you mean that we cannot change the system by voting for communists alone, then sure, that doesn’t work. Communist parties participating in elections, bringing popular policy to the forefront, and radicalizing the working classes? That absolutely works and is absolutely useful.

        The fact of the matter is that your accelerationism already throws marginalized people under the bus by putting the more competent imperialists in power, directly, without fronting every chance to depose the imperialists of both parties. The DNC doesn’t even protect domestic marginalized peoples, and is a more capable party for dominating the global south for longer.

        Voter reform cannot actually gain systemic change. It’s a carrot used to keep people under the impression that gaining it will fix the system and not require revolution.

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          5 hours ago

          Communist parties participating in elections, bringing popular policy to the forefront, and radicalizing the working classes? That absolutely works and is absolutely useful.

          I have yet to see evidence of that in this country, like, ever at all.

          You want to dismantle the system, I get that, but while the system is here I’m going to do functional harm reduction while trying to dismantle it.

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            5 hours ago

            This has been a successful strategy in existing socialist states, including the Russian revolution. You aren’t doing “harm reduction,” you’re morally justifying accelerationism to yourself.