• HippyTed@slrpnk.net
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    Not surprised. We are learning that we miscalculated the climate sensitivity. Alas, it doesnt arrive with a giant banner, kicking down the door but just slowly sneaks in and then refuses to leave.

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      ICE can’t kill us all. The climate change our politicians and corporations are resolutely ignoring certainly can.

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        Climate change can’t kill us all unless we hit some strange runaway effect that wasn’t triggered when atmospheric CO2 levels were higher 500 million years ago (although the sun was 5% less bright back then). There might only be a couple million people hanging out on tropical Antarctica, but they could survive.

        Humans are hardy; our species survived the ice age and the accompanying desertification of Africa with just some sharp rocks, our species can survive a mass extinction event with all our modern science and technology.

        No, if we die out entirely, it will be fascism that does it. Shitheads that would rather burn the last remaining footholds of human survival than let the future exist outside of their control.

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          Humans will survive, civilization won’t. And since we already dug up and burnt all fossil fuels that are reachable with primitive methods, it might not be possible to jump-start development beyond medieval tech ever again.

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            You’re right; the white supremacist concept of “civilization” would not survive, with its destructive concepts of “primitives” and “medieval tech level”.

            That said, people will still have access to scientific knowledge, procedural knowledge, engineering knowledge, cultural knowledge, regional knowledge, etc. Their ways of living may not clock as “civilized” to the sort of people that built Phoenix, Arizona - a monument to white supremacists’ arrogance - but they could live long and happy lives using technology to live within their means.

            That said, if Antarctica melts it would have tons of quite easily accessible fossil fuels. So if “civilization” wants to have another go at destroying the world, it could.

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      something something joke about disappearing glaciers being the real threat from ice something something