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  • my information might be out of date yeah! I’ve just skimmed their wikipedia which hasn’t helped clear things up! Seems they did have difficulties around 2011 - “After two decades in decline, Philips went through a major restructuring, shifting its focus from electronics to healthcare.”

    Then, “On 29 January 2013, it was announced that Philips had agreed to sell its audio and video operations to the Japan-based Funai Electric for €150 million […] Funai was to pay a regular licensing fee to Philips for the use of the Philips brand.[59] The purchase agreement was terminated by Philips in October because of breach of contract[61] and the consumer electronics operations remained under Philips”

    It’s a long wiki article with a hell of a lot of transfers and acquisitions, and it’s not clear how up to date some sections are. So I’m not sure what the current situation is.











  • this is what the mesh networks are that people have mentioned elsewhere in this thread.

    It is theoretically possible to create a purely peer-to-peer network where each individual connects to people nearby, and then any individual can in theory communicate with any other, by passing data packets to nearby people on the network who then pass it on themselves until it reaches the other person.

    You can probably already grasp a few of the issues here - confidentiality is a big one, and reliability is another. But in theory it could work, and the more people who take part in such networks, the more reliable they become.


  • The other approach is not to try to block out all non-approved internet sources, and instead teach your child about the dangers out there, and how to handle them.

    If a young child becomes addicted to online porn for instance, it’s an indication of deeper issues and it seems to be missing the point to put the blame on network operators for not blocking children effectively enough. I don’t think a healthy well developed child would become addicted to porn in the first place.

    That’s the real challenge for parents: they don’t need to be a part-time network über-wizard but rather a stable trustworthy figure for their children to rely on who can guide them through the often difficult journey of growing up.




  • Intelligence and consciousness are not related in the way you seem to think.

    We’ve always known that you can have consciousness without a high level of intelligence (think of children, people with certain types of brain damage), and now for the first time, LLMs show us that you can have intelligence without consciousness.

    It’s naive to think that as we continue to develop intelligent machines, suddenly one of them will become conscious once it reaches a particular level of intelligence. Did you suddenly become conscious once you hit the age of 14 or whatever and had finally developed a deep enough understanding of trigonometry or a solid enough grasp of the works of Mark Twain? No of course not, you became conscious at a very early age, when even a basic computer program could outsmart you, and you developed intelligence quite independently.


  • I’m going to repeat myself as your last paragraph seems to indicate you missed it: I’m *not* of the view that LLMs are capable of AGI, and I think it’s clear to every objective observer with an interest that no LLM has yet reached AGI. All I said is that like cats and rabbits and lizards and birds, LLMs do exhibit some degree of intelligence.

    I have been enjoying talking with you, as it’s actually quite refreshing to discuss this with someone who doesn’t confuse consciousness and intelligence, as they are clearly not related. One of the things that LLMs do give us, for the first time, is a system which has intelligence - it has some kind of model of the universe, however primitive, to which it can apply logical rules, yet clearly it has zero consciousness.

    You are making some big assumptions though - in particular, when you said an AGI would “have a subjective sense of self” as soon as it can “move, learn, predict, and update”. That’s a huge leap, and it feels a bit to me like you are close to making that schoolboy error of mixing up intelligence and consciousness.