I did want to and as you can see in a sibling thread, we actually did discuss with someone who didn’t decide that calling people idiots just because you don’t have anything smarter to say is appropriate.

I’d prefer a world where people are guaranteed the basics to survive without having to capitulate to the system, we have the technlogical progress and productive capabilities to do this we’re just not there in terms of societal progression.

I get that and I agree, but I don’t think giving everyone money that can be stolen by the usual suspects is the solution. Safety nets are the way to go, not UBI.

If someone some day proves me wrong, I’ll be happy to admit I was wrong, though I’m not gonna support UBI until that happens, because of the issues I outlined.

Artificially inflating prices to cancel out UBI would create economic incentive to undercut those corporations in a free market.

That hasn’t worked historically for any reason and UBI is not so magical that the whole of capitalism will sit on its ass and stop doing what it’s doing.

Government intervention could also be used in a less free market to ensure subsistence items aren’t artificially inflated, after that who cares if some company inflates their price? Go work if you want a new shiny thing.

Pretty much the same response as above, good luck with that.

You know what’s really good? Having a safety net to prevent the lowest suffering class of our society dying from things that we’ve been able to prevent for decades.

Having reduced crime because people aren’t fighting over scraps.

Having more mobility in society so people can pursure careers and education that aligns with their own self fulfilment goals.

Fully agree, I don’t see how that relates to UBI, though.

Stop fighting against a better world for all of us please.

I’m not, I’m just trying to explain that while UBI sounds good on paper, it can’t work and never will. It’s free money for everyone who owns capital, be it landlord or huge chains. They’ll have your UBI, you’ll have nothing and you’ll pay for it from your taxes, because rich don’t pay their taxes, definitely not the amount they should. So, where in that is your better world?

Another likely cause: you’re posting to a non-local community and you got hit by federation issues, while your instance thinks the post got created, the target instance doesn’t know about it.

Happened to me a few times.

We live in a real world, not a hypothetical scenario. There are multiple stores and they’re all either in a cartel or just blindly copying each other in extracting the maximum value out of their customers.

This brings them more money, they pump more into marketing and voilà, only the shitty stores remain. If a newcomer joins, you can enjoy a few pretty good years until they inevitably join the shitty cartel or cease to exist.

So yeah, that’s a problem of capitalism but that doesn’t mean it’s not a problem preventing UBI actually ever being implemented.

Just a side note, if you want people to even consider your point of view, don’t call them idiots. Off to blocklist you go! Bye.

Oh, so you’re putting unrealistic constraints on it. Then yes, it has value. But no, the rich are using it, too. And because for them it’s such a small amount, they’re extracting your UBI as well.

Well, definitely more than you understand economy, it seems.

Okay, humour me. Everyone suddenly gets $100 per month. Now, some big grocery chain knows that every single one of those customers has an extra $100. What do you expect to happen? They’ll be like, “cool people will buy more stuff” or they’ll be like “that’s an extra $100 we can extract by making the most common things people buy more expensive,” which do you think is more likely?

That universal income can’t even pay rent, at least in Iran, don’t know about Macau.

It’s money that has no value if it’s truly universal. If it’s not universal, but only a select group gets it, yep pretty much no downsides.

He can’t get elected again legally. Anyone who believes he will let elections happen when his term comes to an end, is optimistic.

Because everything takes fucking forever in the EU. It’s the face of bureaucracy.

I’ll take pessimist takes on technology over calling everything porn any day.

Hmm, something 3D printed, perhaps?

Oh yeah, holding a mass, that’s gonna help the sick. Ridiculous delusional man.

PHP_EOL depends on your host system, it’s \r\n on Windows.

I don’t really want to use what Lerdorf intended, PHP <= 4 was horrible, 5.x was mainly getting slowly rid of nonsense and with 7.x PHP started its slow path of redemption and entered its modern era.

While Lerdorf’s vision was great at that time for its intended use case, I wouldn’t want to build anything serious in it.

Every troll server gets defederated from by everyone. And every troll gets banned on the normal servers. I think the federated nature is a blessing, those assholes have their own part of the internet which is usually far from my part of the internet.

In PHP it exists as well. I try to use PHP_EOL but when I’m lazy I simply do “\n”.

PHP: 0.3*

* with default precision