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    1 year ago

    Im a way, yeah. They clearly they made a shitty app to extract as much value from their users as possible. But my point was that Reddit has significantly higher costs than third party app developers (because they host the content), so the business model that works for third party app developers doesn’t work for them.

    Looking at a third party app - made by someone who doesn’t have to bear the costs of running the site and can therefore make decent money on an ad-free experience - and a first party one which does have to recoup those expenses doesn’t really work. The financial models are just fundamentally different.

    I don’t say that to defend Reddit. They’re clearly a shitty company headed by shitty people, and I’m sure they could’ve found different ways to make money. But yeah, their financial incentives for making an app are fundamentally different than those of other devs.




  • To be clear, I called that dude a conservative because of his username combined with his comment.

    Leaving that aside, our patriarchal capitalist society (yeah yeah, buzzwords, I know) is very good as misdirecting frustration to mask the underlying dynamics; a lot of people, both men and women, are increasingly lonely because of societal problems. Decreased social cohesion because of different urban planning and the focus on the nuclear family for example, both of which are directly tied to capitalist ideology.

    If you then get frustrated and blame that on feminism, that’s textbook conservative thought. A lot of people are misled into thinking these things (because misdirection of frustration is crucial to capitalism), even people who mostly aren’t conservative themselves. That’s just a product of the ubiquity of conservative thought.

    Either way, I hope you can help your friend to escape that way of thinking. It’d be better for everyone.













  • Okay, but my point was about changing people’s minds about it being cool and a product you’d want to own. Tesla’s strategy was to make a sports car (the first Roadster) to show that electric cars could compete with combustion engine cars and to make people want one.

    The engineers who solved the challenges needed to achieve that didn’t come up with that vision - that came from the top. Of course, that was because those guys had the money and could therefore dictate the direction, but if they wouldn’t have made that choice electric cars would most likely be mass adopted quite a few years later. That’s what I’m talking about, and that’s why “engineers did the engineering work” isn’t an argument against my point.

    Also, let’s be real; even now people talk about the engineers and designers being the driving force behind Tesla.



  • The engineers and designers were not the people who changed the perception of electric cars - which was needed to got us to where we are now. Both the actual founders and Musk were instrumental in pushing this.

    At most he stirred up some attention

    Which was definitely needed, and which he does deserve credit for. He’s still a piece of shit regardless, but that doesn’t mean we should overlook and/or dismiss the part he actually did play.

    Like yeah, you’re right about engineers and designers doing the actual engineering and designing work, but it’s a generic (though correct) dunk on Musk that has little to do with the point I’m making.