2x2=2048

See, one step!

I don’t live in that country

“4x2 = 16”

you can get to 2048 very quick this way

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Sir Dribblepiss Cuntfruit

Hitmen would still be liable. Better to hire a swarm of drones or robodogs.

The answer is not letting any company grow into a monopoly. There are actual laws against that. Break up existing monopolies. Then make business owners way more accountable than they are today. I know it is hard to prove intent in fraud cases, but any sort of creative accounting, transfer of debt between companies, bonuses that aren’t in alignment with company performance, stock buybacks and other manipulations of valuation, and a myriad other obvious fraudulent behaviors should be punished with long prison time.

I believe it when I see it

Productivity is a collective achievement. AI in its current form increases individual output (not necessarily good output) without any way to support consensus, alignment, understanding, etc. Without AI supported collaboration, AI supported individual productivity makes everything go very fast in every direction. Like an explosion.

Sounds like you read some Libertarian treatise about how scarcity of gold lends value to the money itself. Same thinking brought you bitcoin, look at how that’s going. Money doesn’t have to have intrinsic value, it just has to act as a good store of value. In terms of purchasing power. Which means that if I save the amount of money that buys me X% of the global economic output this year (X being a very small but non-zero number), I should be able to buy X% of economic output in 40 years when I retire. That is, a good monetary system follows the ebb and flow of economic output, instead of being artificially limited by scarcity, or artificially inflated by central banks.

It is beyond capitalism now, it is corporatism turning into neo-feudalism. Some may argue that capitalism inevitably has to follow this path. I am not sure about that, but unregulated capitalism combined with large scale centralized representative democracy probably does.

Marsupial law. With deep pouches to put the bribes in. It’s already in place by the way.

The checks they cashed in and now giddily look at their account balances.

Who profits from whom is non-sequitur in determining which culture is built on better principles. The argument that “better quality of life will make the world a better place and allow cultures to work together in harmony” (that is, globalization) was proven wrong by the rise of China. They are the strongest economy, yet still have a terrible human rights problem, which they export everywhere they go. The “arabs” are rich nations too, look at the Gulf states and Saudis. They still did 9/11. Somehow it wasn’t a white thrash trailer park boy who flew a plane into the Kaaba stone.

Some societies are not built on individual rights at which point they are inferior. The individual is the only real thing that exists. Nations, clans, religions, even families are just abstractions in our heads. If those are presented as more important than the individuals rights and responsibilities then it’s in the interest of the presenter to deceive their audience. Somehow the “interest of the clan” always aligns with the interest of the clan leader. You can see that transformation in real time in the US with Trump.

You are arguing with yourself not with me. I never said liberal democracies don’t place property before humans. All I originally said was that other societies placed property before humans, not just liberal democracies. To which you said my example of ancient Greece was wrong, because the state owned some silver mines. To which I said that’s not a good argument, because they still used slaves. Like some lib democracies used to too, I am aware. As a clue, they abolished slavery, which very few other societies did, but it’s kind of beside my main point, see above. If you want to argue, argue with that, not with stuff I never said.

EDIT: I am not even saying that liberal democracy is good. I think it is better than a lot of other systems. It’s still very flawed, and partly because it cannot synthetize property rights with human rights. At least it keeps trying .

We are not arguing about who owns property in various societies, or what societies had more private property vs state owned property. We talk about which societies placed human rights above property rights. You can be sure the ancient Athenians sent slaves to work those silver mines. Not very humane if you ask me.

It is wrong to discriminate by birth. It is also wrong to not discriminate by behavior. Cultures are collections of encouraged behaviors. Fascists discriminate by birth. I discriminate by behavior. I am also not saying that Western culture is the only OK one. I also don’t have to explain myself to you, but I am doing it because it is important that people can tell fascism from non-fascism.

“protecting private property is their guiding light” – that was true in ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome, China, the mediaeval feudal societies, in Nazi Germany, etc etc. Beyond small tribal societies you are hard pressed to find an example where property wasn’t more important than people. That’s true for the so called communist states too, just the property technically wasn’t private (in practice it was, no wonder oligarchs emerged from its collapse). And yes, it is true in lib democracies too, but with the added counter-idea of humab rights which most other societies lack(ed).

That’s not specific to liberal democracies. Liberal democracies tend to be more respectful of human rights than other types of societies. As such they are constantly under attack by internal and external forces that place property before life. It seems they always succeed in bringing democracies down. But that’s not per se the fault of liberal democracies.

“The West” is a cultural entity not an ethnic one. Thinking that some cultures are better than others is not fascistic. For example to think that slavery is worse than social democracy is quite not the fascistic thought. “The West” has meant a lot of things across the ages, but the rights and responsibilities of the individual and the limited power of authority has been an ever present principle. Whenever some powers tried to suppress that, it always resurfaced, sometimes violently when that was the only way. For all its flaws, Western culture is among the best, and has been since about the fall of Rome.

instead of shutting down bot farms, entire countries, Russia, China, Saudi A, Israel, etc should be disconnected from the global internet. It has very little economic benefit to have them online and a huge political downside of easy manipulation. It is much easier to shut down and prosecute bot farms when they are hosted on Western soil. Then we just have to actually prosecute them, even if they are trillion dollar companies like Twitter.