Prove_your_argument

The thing that LLMs are great at is taking a LOT of datapoints and coming to a conclusion based on all of them.

Humans can look at a few but get overwhelmed.

if you feed a ton of diagnostic data including past incidents, blood test, perhaps DNA tests, i’m pretty sure LLMs will be able to better figure out a diagnosis than a doctor using traditional methods.

When users self-diagnose, they’re often wrong, because they don’t know what the fuck they’re doing. Garbage in garbage out regardless of the entity trying to process it.

This study is one that put doctors against a LLM, 90% accuracy for chatgpt, 74% for doctors not using LLM tool. https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2024/12/03/ai-diagnosis-ec

So chatgpt wrong 10% of the time, doctor wrong 26% of the time. 2.6x worse failure rate by real docs… for that one anyway. The better the data for chatgpt, the better it’s diagnosis. Humans probably won’t get much better, but LLMs? I bet they will.

We’re likely to have an intermediary step where HCPs handle the symptoms, testing, etc and then it’s fed into a medical focused LLM. The LLM will output potential diagnosis for a doctor to review for sanity, even though the doctor is probably less accurate it will make everyone feel better, and then the doc will slap a diagnosis on their profile.

LLMs will be infinitely better than humans at figuring out drug interactions (it’s just a big fucking database), allergies (they can’t forget you’re allergic to NSAIDs like my wife is, and who routinely has been given them by HCPs who fuck up.) Who knows what else.

Nah, I just consistently put more effort in than you clowns.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11263899/

ChatGPT4 rated higher than physicians at taking text input and getting a diagnosis in that study.

Here’s a completely different one. 90% accuracy for chatgpt, 74% for doctors not using LLM tool. https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2024/12/03/ai-diagnosis-ec

So chatgpt wrong 10% of the time, doctor wrong 26% of the time. 2.6x worse failure rate by real docs… for that one anyway.

It’s just a matter of time for medical diagnosis to be done by LLMs first, and then simply be reviewed by a doc for sanity because humans “don’t trust” technology.

So here, you literally just prove you’re an asshat, and I brought data.

Do you have any evidence that doctors are superior to LLMs? I haven’t seen any of it. :)

If you post on reddit asking for advice, and you die after following the advice despite there being no claims of anyone being a doctor, who does someone sue?

IMO shouldn’t need disclaimers stating that absolutely everyone and everything is not a lawyer, is not a HCP, etc, etc. It’s just a given.

If you google something and just blindly do what the first result says, do you have a case against them too?

There are no arguments otherwise here.

I’m not here to write beautifully crafted arguments when no one has yet to disagree.

This is basically the current administration, in a post.

If you’re still trying to understand it, you really need to read between the lines or perhaps some tea leaves.

If you actually look at the decisions being made, a lot of people in a lot of very deep red areas are getting a bunch of federal cheddar. Plus dumpy’s fam has made billions on their own crypto during all of this by using the popularity.

Then there’s all the quid-pro-quo ‘dealing’ we keep hearing about, but we only hear the public side of it. We don’t hear the private business negotiation where the terms are only sweetened after a bribe is agreed upon.

The trans vaccines leave chemtrails on your autistic activist judges who are reinventing the constitution by sticking to constitutional precedent and allowing billions of brown people to flood in from mexico.

We’ve got to build a wall to keep QAnon alive because hunter biden’s laptop autopen’d Project 2025 which has created the agenda which says state’s rights are important, except only when it is incongruent with the heritage foundation’s agenda.

Everything I have said is true, signed, DumpyJTrumpetbooty

I’ve literally only ever used the web version on windows. It works fine, so what’s the problem? what functionality is being lost?

More ram usage? oh no! I couldn’t possibly have free Ram left!

and if the argument is “Bbbuut the LLM was wrong once and someone DIED!”

The comparison is the human being wrong over and over and over and over to the result of countless deaths. Malpractice lawsuits must be rare compared to the amount of mistakes that are made, simply because it’s difficult to get to the point where you win, and extremely costly if you fail the suit.

We already have people posting on social media for medical advice. LLMs just can’t be worse than that.

I feel like this is the self driving car thing again.

How often are human doctors wrong in their diagnoses?

How often are LLM doctors wrong in their diagnoses?

I’m pretty sure the former is close to 75%, and the latter substantially less. I’ve heard of so many people go to doctor after doctor and not get the right diagonsis or treatment for whatever they have going on, and it takes 5+ to find the one who figures it out and gets them treated.

One thing is to provide a flat photo, another is to provide close detailed biometric readings of your face where you’re effectively providing a 3d image detailing the contours of your body, that could prehaps be duplicated to unlock faceID but absolutely generates information that can be used to identify you from surveillance video accurately, more accurately than flat photos alone.

You don’t need to provide an address, accurate DOB, or really talk about anything deep in chats. Linking your name/address/dob to a general dating site isn’t particularly concerning for me since all of this information has been leaked over and over and over again from various ‘highly secure’ businesses like healthcare companies, experian etc. Those leaks don’t have biometrics like fingerprints or facial geometry though. No reason to have even more PII submitted to these shithole companies that will let themselves get breached because hiring tech security is pricey and doesn’t add revenue to the bottom line.

Really? catfishing is this much of a risk that we’d rather eliminate privacy completely and provide biometric data that tinder can then sell to whoever?