One is enough IF he was actually part of the protest. He wasnt. There were even people in the convoy protest who offered a cash reward for his identity and no one ever found out who he was. Maybe coincidence, maybe not, but he disappeared up the steps into the hotel that the RCMP were staying at. The protesters werent staying there. So who was he?

And no ONE person in a protest does not mean you can paint the thousands of others there with the same brush. If that were true you would have noticed that there was a counter protest just a few blocks away where ONE person in the crowd was carrying a hammer and sickle flag. Does that mean that crowd support Communists? Hardly.

There was ONE guy with a Nazi flag wearing a face covering (why? The protesters were anti mask) who was jeered out of the crowd and disappeared into a hotel. He was NOT with the convoy and definitely NOT supported by the protesters.

A new generation starts when kids are born. Thats about 20 years if you average it across the world. Maybe 30 years in North America. Not 60 years.

I understand their situation very well. I used to have a home that was destroyed by a catastrophic natural event and I cant live there anymore because my home, cars and property are gone. Stuff happens. Im not looking for a scapegoat, you deal with it and move on, ESPECIALLY if its going to take 100 years to happen.

Yeah wearing pants is exactly the same as taking a shot that MAY protect you from covid (It didnt. I still got covid, so did three people in my family who were also vaccinated) or it may actually make you sicker.

Which is why the gov has accepted admissions from 2700 Canadians who were damaged by the vaccine and have already paid out 18 million in damages to them with more to come. https://vaccineinjurysupport.ca/en/program-statistics

So yeah, thats exactly like wearing pants to work.

She wasnt ‘prone’ to sickness til the hospital forced her to get a SARS shot after nearly 20 years there. Not her fault she got sick from it.

Major historic polluters like Canada

Huh? Even the article states Canada’s contribution to GHG’s is 2% which is already inflated. Most sources state its 1.3%. How does 98.7% of emissions coming from other countries, with China and the US making up more than half of that, make Canada a “major” polluter? We’re obviously and empirically very MINOR polluters, we’re actually within the margin of error since the calculations are all based on computer models.

And Im well aware of Canada’s higher per capita rate but the environment does not measure GHG’s by “per capita” rate.

One of the main lawyers represented in this court case was there to represent Tuvalu, which is a tiny string of islands in the mid Pacific. Its a tiny nation of 10,000 people on 9 miniature islands (totalling only 10 square miles) with the highest point only being 15 feet above sea level. But these people feel that a tiny and incredibly slow rise in sea level due to “climate change” is their biggest danger? How about typhoons or just a plain old sea squall? The island MAY be underwater in 100 years. Maybe.

Here’s an idea - since this is “emergency” is going to take a hundred years, which is five generations from now, you Tuvaluans start packing your bags and moving say in 20 or 30 years, instead of hand wringing what MIGHT happen in five generations? Heck, take your time, and dont move for three more generations, your kids, your grandkids and your great grandkids will be fine.

Good lord, like none of us have ever moved because we no longer felt good about where we lived or it was no longer a ‘safe neighborhood’ Happens every day in the rest of the world, why should Tuvalu get ‘compensated’ five generations down the road when they could easily make EXTREMELY SLOW plans to leave in a 20, 40, 60 years from now?

Thats like watching a car come at you at walking speed from 100 miles away and screaming that you are going to want compensation when it hits your great great great grandchildren who all refuse to move from the same spot. Make it make sense. Its not an emergency when it happens at a snails pace, its just a change.

The only people truly excited about this ruling are the lawyers rubbing their greedy hands in glee at the prospect of their fees for suing the big bad oil companies for billions.

What about her employers obligation to protect HER? She was there for 30 years and she had already suffered physical damage from a previous vaccine that her employer required (SARS). To FORCE her to endanger herself further was illogical and unfair.

If you are given options its a choice like ‘hey we value your THIRTY YEARS of service so you can work on a different unit for now, or you can take an unpaid leave, or you can do administrative work at home til the epidemic subsides’ THAT would be a choice.

If its ‘You have to get the vaccine or we’ll fire you’, thats not a consequence, thats force’ She was most definitely FORCED to resign.

You’re completely missing context.

At the point of the convoy, about 85% of Canadians were already vaccinated. Thats plenty for ‘herd immunity’ But the government was STILL pushing, after two solid years of vaccinations and people being isolated for even MORE measures to force people to get vaccinated. And the cracks were already beginning to show - kids were losing out on a significant amount of their education, old people in homes were suffering deep depression from not seeing family, businesses were closing and people were losing their life’s work because they had no customers, mental health issues were skyrocketing and hospitals couldnt keep up with the patient intake, drug use went from bad to epidemic levels and still is epidemic level, family relationships were not only strained but a lot of people ended relationships with friends and family over the vaccination issue. And into this hell, Trudeau comes up with the bright idea to try and force cross border truckers to get vaccinated when they barely ever left their truck cabs and interacted with almost no one in their daily duties. Even Trudeau said “over 90% of truckers are vaccinated”. Fine. Good enough, leave the rest alone.

You make it sound like those opposed to vaccines were the majority. No there were a minority who had reasons not to get it whether you agree with their reasons or not. And we should’ve been just fine with that, because they were a small minority. But instead of just leaving them alone MANY people vilified them as evil people and bad Canadians. They weren’t.

I STRONGLY prefer a few people who chose to do what they felt was right for them and their families to a government that says you WILL do what we say, WHEN we tell you to do it and you will NOT object or we will make sure you suffer consequences including losing your job and your means to make a living AND we will seize your money for protesting what we tell you. Like, what the fuck Trudeau, back the hell up!! Who made you KING?! This is Canada, not communist China. He WAY overstepped his authority and thank god he paid for it with HIS job - the truckers are just fine.

Lol. She did it exceptionally well for 30 years and there are many children alive today because of her care and YOU’RE going to pass judgement on her? LOL. Oh please.

I agree, we were working with the info at the time. But thats what was so frustrating about the continuation of the mandates when it was clear that we were past the peak of infections and the gov STILL wanted to impose NEW restrictions. I think Canadians were pretty patient for two long years but there was no reason to keep pushing us past the point of reason.

And even if Trudeau’s rationale was that he wanted to push people to get vaccinated, the name calling and the derision for those who didnt want to was completely uncalled for. The FIRST job of a PM is to keep Canadians united and feeling supported not treated like they were bad guys. That was a jerk move on his part.

But yes, lesson learned. Unfortunately the ‘lesson’ here in Alberta seems to be 'you cant make us take a vaccine we dont want which is why we have a crazy high measles outbreak. Yikes. Thats embarrassing.

And since when is losing your means to make a living a valid consequence for refusing a vaccine? The courts have said, in most cases, that it was overreach and shouldnt have happened. Those weren’t reasonable consequences for non compliance, especially when it was accompanied by harassment and derision, some of it by our own PM. Stop drinking the koolaid.

My partner’s 87 year old mother could be killed by Covid. We have all maintained flu/Covid shots to protect her.

You DO know that getting the shot didnt prevent anyone from carrying and transmitting covid, right? And you can still get covid even after vaccination?

The value of FORCING everyone to get the shot and isolating themselves really becomes questionable as we look at the long term effects: Mental health issues are way up. School age KIds lost two years of schooling and a lot of socialization skills. Drug use skyrocketed and we have a drug epidemic. Many seniors were severely emotionally impacted by not being able to see their families. Massive job losses particularly in the hospitality industry. Business closures. The division caused by the PM painting refusers as ‘bad Canadians’. Plus the ridiculous financial cost of the ArriveCan scam, paying for hotel rooms to isolate travellers, millions of vaccines that went unused, respirators that were bought at a premium and sold as scrap, to say nothing of the billions of dollars that were handed out with almost zero oversight MUCH of it completely wasted. Like the millions given to a QC company to build a pharmaceutical plant that never happened. And the rapid rise of inflation caused by injecting billions of dollars into the economy.

The Trudeau approach to forcing compliance cost this country A LOT and we’re going to be dealing with the fallout for many years to come. There was usefulness in the beginning but after two years Trudeau was actually saying that he saw further use for the digital app for allowing entrance into buildings and other access. NO THANKS, we dont need gov control over free movement and medical compliance.

Thats a short term consequence and unfortunate for those people. But look at the long term consequence - America continues to lose credibility in the eyes of the world. Dumpster Donnie, while a hero to the party faithful, is increasingly despised and the American economy is paying the price as not just Canadians but other world citizens are avoiding US good and tourism. He thinks he’s “winning” so bigly. He’s only delaying his ouster.

Indeeed, he already has. To his own country.

He also said he’d end the Ukraine war in his first week as president. He didnt do that. He also said he’d lower the cost of goods in the US. Didnt do that. He also said he’d get 90 trade deals in 90 days. Didnt do that. He also said he’d release the Epstein files. Didnt do that. Said he’d bring manufacturing back to America. Didnt do that. Said he’d stop America’s wars. Didnt do that…

He’s a rambling buffoon who spouts any shit he can think of as long as it gets him on the front page every day to stroke his pathetic ego.

So maybe you believed that he was going to annex Canada but anyone who has watched this moron for more than a month knows that he’ll say anything to get attention, and almost all of it is lies and made up bullshit. The only ‘strategy’ that Carney needs to implement is to wait for him to self destruct and then deal with the hopefully more rational leader that succeeds him.

for stupid decisions that endanger others.

Sure. But there are plenty of reasons people had for refusing the vaccine that arent stupid at all. Including my cousin who is a pediatric ICU nurse and VERY well acquainted with vaccines and how they work. She was required to take the SARS vaccine and it physically damaged her immediately, and she now has heart complications that started right after she took her shot. So when the health board said she needed to take the Covid shot she pleaded her case as her heart couldnt take more damage if it were to have the same effect. They refused to grant her an exception so she retired from nursing instead. Not sure what part of that is ‘stupid’ but there wasnt exactly a lot of understanding - Trudeau made sure the message was that anyone who didnt take the shot was ‘unCanadian’ and most likely misogynists and racists and dont believe in science. Which was actually a pretty asshole thing to say. And why he’s not only no longer PM but he’s completely disappeared off the radar because the Liberal party doesnt want to remind Canadians of his existence.

We all heard Donny Bonespurs tell the world he wanted to annex Canada as the 51st state. We watched as he tried to intimidate us with tariffs. Do you think we don’t get American news up here?

Of course. But it was Carney who played it up as an ‘existential threat’ to Canada. Its not. Donnie is a full of shit narcissist blowhard and he fails at everything he touches. But the Liberal strategy was to give Donnie’s pathetic weazing as much oxygen as possible, keep people scared, make sure that our economic life depended on someone handling the ‘threat’ and of course, who better than an international banker. Up til Carney put the spotlight on Donnie Dumpster, most Canadians were focussing on stuff that actually affects their lives like grocery prices, inflation, high housing costs, the increase in crime, the increase in drug use and the flood of TFWs. And THOSE are the things that are still affecting our lives, not the tariffs. But we took the bait and voted for the ‘tariff’ guy and ignored the guy who’s been talking about the more important issues the whole time.

I think its budgetary issues that are going to be his Achilles heel. Trudeau went crazy with cash and the last budget was what, 40 billion higher than estimated? The one that he planned to throw Freeland under the bus with? But Carney shows no sign of letting up. He doesnt even want to present a budget, most likely because he doesnt want to be held to account for it.

So everything’s going to look rosy as he taxes and spends but without fail, the day of reckoning is coming and thats going to fall on young people who aren’t going to be thrilled with the legacy of debt they’ll be carrying.

What other definition of ‘forced’ is there, other than being coerced to do something against your will? Thats the definition of forced.

This was just reported this morning by a national press gallery media: “Incomplete figures show nearly 1,600 Canadian soldiers, sailors and air crew resigned, were discharged or faced discipline for defying Covid orders” Sounds pretty forced to me.

And recall what touched off the whole convoy event? The government insisted that cross border truckers, the same guys who had been praised for keeping our international trade going and supplying our stores for the previous two years were going to be FORCED to get covid vaccines. These are guys who spend all their time in a truck cab and barely interact with anyone except the guy running the forklift to load them in the US but suddenly, after two years, Trudeau decided that to “participate in society” as you put it, they needed to get vaxxed. It didnt make any sense at that point, still doesnt. Thus the spark that ignited a huge protest. We were tired of being forced to do things that no longer made sense even if they did in the beginning.