Even excusing the policy, the design is actually pretty shit though. We’re all just used to it so it feels default and normal.

There are mandated back doors in most message apps.

Source?

I don’t see this happening. Apple to/from Android are the only texts that the government can easily snoop on.

Antinatalists constantly tell people to kill their offspring.

Some do, sure, but that’s what what antinatalism is. This is like saying “vegans constantly tell meat eaters to kill themselves.” Yes, some do, but the point of veganism isn’t the death of meat eaters.

I argue on the same level as antinatalists.

No, you argue on your deranged level by justifying it with your antinatalist boogey man. You’re like those YouTube conservatives who put up a picture of a blue haired teenager on screen and saying “this is who the liberals are.”

If the cause is to end the suffering that humankind causes then there is only one solution.

This is like saying the way to end violence done in the name of religion is to kill off all religious people. There’s more that goes into getting to an end solution than just immediately jumping to it. And it also seems like you think antinatalists entire existence is about making antinatalism, like there’s nothing else besides this.

If my notions of the world are wrong, and humankind really is only a burden, then youre indirectly also calling for genocide.

You seem to not know what the word “natalism” means. It’s about bring people into the world. It has nothing to do with people who are already living.

And killing off all living people isn’t a genocide. It’s “speciocide.” Completely different things. Comparing antinatalists with people who commit genocides is unbelievably unhinged, but I should have seen it coming from someone like you.

You think that isn’t fucked up?

The only thing I think is fucked up in this discussion is people who only believe in antinatalism-lite for eugenic reasons and, of course, you.

You straw man the position and say following the conclusion of the straw man, humanity must end based on their logic.

How isn’t having kids selfish? You’re not having a child for this child’s sake. You’re having the child for your sake.

So if you were truly commited to your cause and you wanted your bloodline to die with you, then you could also [i do not condone selfharm, this is purely for argumentation].

I don’t have a cause. You’re putting words into my mouth because you don’t know how to argue in good faith.

You’re literally telling me to kill myself because you’re personally offended someone dare challenge your preconceived notions of the world. You’re a truly fucked up individual. I pray you don’t have or ever have any dependents. You’re a danger to society.

I think you might be glamorizing it a bit. Talking about politics was until “recently” considered very rude and taboo. There’s been a big culture shift in talking about politics in the past maybe 15-20 years or so. I don’t have any hard data and this is just my view, but I think a major turning point was when a lot of the country realized how fucked up the wars in the Middle East were. This put people squarely into two pretty emotional camps, pro-war and anti-war. Everyone* had an opinion. Everyone* was open about sharing that opinion. Over those few years 2003-2008 was probably the biggest shift in openly talking about politics among regular people. And since being open about politics was now in, here came the wave of loud and proud racism from “centrists” and conservatives once Obama was elected and it hasn’t died down since.

So, yeah, it’s real easy for discussions to get “hot” when one side is openly calling for all the -isms in the book and people on the other side finally realizing what’s happening.

I said parents are selfish for having kids. You can try to downplay it all you want, but you don’t have a kid for this future magical mystical kid. You have a kid for your own wants and needs over everything else. Just because having kids is an accepted action in society doesn’t make it not selfish. And since you think of “selfishness” as a bad thing, this makes your brain scramble and your cognitive dissonance go into overdrive causing you to come up with completely inept retorts like I’m “selfish” for simply existing and using resources that the Earth clearly has as I’m using them.

This is such an incredible leap in logic.

You can say that having kids is selfish, which it objectively is (no matter if they’re perfectly healthy/wealthy/on top of society or not), but also want to “build a society and world that will accept us, accommodate to us, liberate people and save the planet.”

Focusing on just kids with disabilities and not every kid is fucked though, with a lot of these people in these spaces.

There’s no other way to put it, having kids is extremely selfish.

It’s pretty much the epitome of selfishness.

I want to clarify though, this isn’t to say that calling only people who to have kids who happen to have disabilities “selfish.” Every single parent is extremely selfish (excluding some outliers, obviously, don’t “um actually” me).

Why aren’t you a communist?

It makes perfect sense. What are you confused about? Are you going to try to “it’s just an OK hand symbol” your way out of this? What else would “space lasers” mean in the way you meant it?

No, it’s not my server. It’s well known file host that allows anyone to upload anything to it.

Holy shit, what an anti-Semitic piece of shit you are. Absolutely classless.

It doesn’t matter that you think this sort of “logic” leads to conspiratorial thinking. There is a “they” and it’s the ruling class. The ruling class, and its defenders, is made up of a lot of people and institutions who create, dictate, and govern the systems that keep them and their power firmly in place. Sorry that society is a bit more complicated than you want it to be. Reality is a hard pill to bite sometimes for you racists.

And if you knew anything about anything, you’d know that democratically elected leaders are toppled by their ruling classes and/or outside forces (i.e. US) when something doesn’t go in the interest of the ruling class. To think somehow the US is immune from this is absolutely delusional thinking. Not surprising you’re into Western exceptionalism with your views on race.

And again, I just want to reiterate how much of a bottom barrel racist scum you are.

If you care enough, just open it up in a private window or a new profile. Also, unless you don’t want whoever is between you and their server (if anyone is) knowing you watched a TikTok video of a woman going around asking other woman what their car payments are, bad SSL settings is whatever.

Here’s the original link: https://www.tiktok.com/@toyotacargirls/video/7202381347908832558

I just didn’t want to deal with people complaining about “A TIKTOK? ON MY LEMMIES?”

Either way, I can’t win with you people.

I saw this on TikTok and it’s been burned into my brain since.

https://cdn1.frocdn.ch/vZBqPK4EuWepdGt.mp4 (link might not work with some security settings).

The amount of money seemingly regular people are dumping into car payments is unreal.

Nobody actually lives in a capsule hotel

I mean.

What you’re saying can happen has literally never happened in human history though, right?

There’s a reason why the nonviolent revolution Wikipedia article is essentially empty, right?

(I’m not downvoting you BTW, I upvoted.)

It’s really simple. The ruling class of society benefits more sending the little shit into the military than it costs. The ruling class doesn’t benefit as much when this little shit costs more than the little shit produces. It has nothing to do with protecting the little shit, it has to do with protecting the people in power.

There have to be people living in capsule hotels in Japan. There are people in Japan living in computer cafes, where the lights are on 24/7. Japan isn’t all sunshine and roses. Tons of people barely hanging on and these cheap ass places let them have at least some sort of dignity. If you work any job in Japan, odds are you’ll have a roof over your head. Same can’t be said in the US, where many homeless people have jobs and can’t afford to be protected from the elements.