• ryathal@sh.itjust.works
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      Not doing the show was clearly a mistake at this point. Branding him as extreme right doesn’t seem to be working either.

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        “Doesn’t seem to be qorking?”

        It’s a statement of fact. Rogan’s politics are clearly far right. This isn’t even debatable unless you’ve fallen for the lie that his views somehow represent the “middle” because he at times gives token criticism of some Republicans, too.

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      And then, (like the author in this article continued to do), they vilified all men, and specifically white men.

      And they wonder why they can’t attract men?

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      Only because Bernie was pushed on useful idiots as a useful vote-splitter that benefitted Trump

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    This is a typical, lazy straw man.

    “The left” are first of all not some kind of monolith. Obviously. Second of all, the notion that this supposed monolith are all “shouting down men” is nonsense, too.

    Now, there IS absolutely validity to small pieces of these arguments that the “left” have not offered young men the kind of guidance they need, while the right have done a great job providing them with tantalizing bogeymen. But the argument sin this post are more of the same tired perpetuation of a false Left/Right culture war argument that is generally levied by people like Rogan, Peterson, Crowder, Carlson, etc. They tell these lost young men it’s some nefarious leftist plot to take away their manhood or whatever. The left’s failure is to not have a could counter to that. But creating “their own joe rogan” is nonsense because that’s just saying “they need their own version manipulating lies”.

    What the “Left” needs to do is be able to able to not blame young men for falling for that nonsense, but to recognize there it is filling a wanted gap among that demographic to have certain archetypes.

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      But to be honest - the left is redefining what it means to be a man. It’s just that they fail to make a good pitch to a lot of young folks to pitch their sale.

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    Everyone coming up with reasons to blame the left for failing when the right, the rich and Russia teamed up in a country with unlimited anonymous election spending and no left wing parties.

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      This is a failing of the left that is talked in the article though. Men were abandoned by the left, and the far right filled the void.

      Now indeed the liberals tend to blame all the problems in the world on the left, but this is not the matter in this article, although it does talk about elections.

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      Wrong left. It’s referring to the left side of parliament, or in this case House and Senate. That is the liberals in the US. Not Leftists, the collection of ideologies revolving around human liberation, the left of the aisle, which happens to be conservative at best in the US.

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    Leftists (who are more aligned with centrists) shut out the working class, ie. the blue collar workers, the students, and the minimum wage workers, by pandering to the rich elite, and refusing to acknowledge their internal issues. Donald Trump and the right dominated the narrative, especially with religion on their side to fuel their objectives.

    Its not about young men, its about “leftists” losing the working class.