Mastodon is focused on posting on your personal account’s page and doesn’t really support groups AFAIK. Lemmy does have groups (communities) but doesn’t support personal posts. While I get that the two mimic their proprietary counterparts and this defines their functionality, as a self-hoster I’d like to host just one service that would combine the functionality of both Mastodon and Lemmy and potentially other Fediverse platforms.

So what is the platform that implements the most of ActivityPub features?

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    Friendica.

    but it is not cleanly threaded like lemmy or piefed. a developer said they will improve this a bit in the next version , but certainly not to the level of threadiverse.

    Anyway they have all kinds of technical fancy stuff regarding groups, hashtags, saved searches and whatever.

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        Pleasure. I don’t know unfortunately which English speaking instances are very good.

        One more thing: in order to make it work for you, you really have to dig through the manyfold settings and somehow make yourself understand how channels and all that stuff works. Best would be if you had somebody who explained it to you.

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          Well, I’ve heard a lot of people saying good things about Friendica, so I’m willing to invest some time and energy!

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      Friendica is unusable in my opinion. UI and UX is just too bad…

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      I like MBin. But I haven’t found toot functionality on PieFed.

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        It’s still early days for PieFed and microblogging. We got the ability to properly follow people a few weeks ago (in 1.7.0, I think). But a lot of stuff isn’t implemented yet. I’m not aware of a way to send out toots. And last time I tried replying to one, it didn’t show up on Mastodon. It’s slowly coming along though. If you’re planning to set up some Fedi service for the future, I think it’s worth keeping it on the radar. But as of now it’s still lacking in this regard, compared to for example MBin.

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    I just wish they could utilize a shared login framework. something completely foss and doing common sense thing like encryption.

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    It sounds like you’re looking for Mbin. But I’m curious, do you want both mastadon and Lemmy combined into a singular feed? Would you be opposed to having your Mastadon feed as a form of “Community” that fits into the normal feed as its own community?

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      Yes, I tried Mbin after another user recommended it here and it is what I need!

      I would not be really opposed to having Mastodon feed separately, but I’m really enjoying the combined feed feature of Mbin. Although Mastodon posts do end up in the ‘random’ magazine there.

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        The Random Magazine is for content which does not belong to any real Magazine (/ Community). So mostly all of Mastodon Toots which don’t mention or tag a Magazine.

        The best way to get a personal feed is to subscribe to Magazines and users (and you will be able to follow Hashtags in a future update) and then go to the Combined view of /all and set the filters to Newest + Subscribed (you can also set this filter settings to be your homepage in the settings).

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      Damn, this is exactly what I was looking for! Both personal toots and Lemmy-like communities and even a possibility to see posts from both in a combined feed!

      Apart from that, it’s possible to create your own feeds (lists of accounts/communities), so, for instance, I can have one for photos from Pixelfed, one for videos from PeerTube and others for communities and accounts filtered by certain topics. There is also another way of categorizing content called ‘magazines’, but I haven’t quite figured it out yet.

      I’m not particularly fond of it’s UI, but I found a client app called Interstellar which, on the contrary, I found very ergonomic and functional. Much more so, in fact, than Lemmy clients I’ve used. Btw, Interstellar also supports Lemmy and PieFed, as well as switching between multiple accounts, so I’ll start using it for those, too.

      A real gem! Thank you.

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        Apart from that, it’s possible to create your own feeds (lists of accounts/communities),

        Where did you find this feature? Do you mean bookmarks?

        There is also another way of categorizing content called ‘magazines’, but I haven’t quite figured it out yet.

        This is the Mbin term for what Lemmy calls Communities. So nothing for yourself to categorize content, but for you and others to post to (you can post / view threads and posts to a Magazine).

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          Where did you find this feature? Do you mean bookmarks?

          Sorry, turned out it’s a feature of the client Interstellar, not Mbin itself.

          This is the Mbin term for what Lemmy calls Communities.

          Oh okay, makes perfect sense. Thanks!

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    off topic: I saw this post first in Voyager on Lemmy. Why do I see this post here on joinfriendica?
    And why do I not see Matthias comments for instance on the lemmy thread?
    And why do I not see my own comments which I made on lemmy here in friendica? fediverse is so confusing to me…

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      Now I do see Matthias post from friendica also here on Lemmy. Also, now I see on lemmy this post that I’m replying to and that I made myself on friendica.

      I still do not see on friendica the direct reply to OP that I had made on Lemmy. On friendica, I see only three direct replies to the original post. Significantly less than here on Lemmy.

      I wonder : it should work and display in both directions, I guess? How is this cross platform viewing and replying correctly called in fediverse?

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    @myszka
    Take a look at Friendica. It offers all the features mentioned on a single platform. Furthermore, it boasts broad connectivity to other networks and is infinitely expandable via an add-on system.

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        They’re probably using a static site template, maybe Astro.

        They’ve put a lot of work into Bonfire, off the top of my head

        • working with activitypub stakeholders to get a proper standard for groups (which helps us directly)
        • tooling for other platforms to use
        • a separate platform focussed on academics with integrations to academia services

        It’s far from some vibe coded project

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            IMO there’s a difference between the vibe coded one-shot projects (which tend to have those AI generated looking websites), and using LLMs for targeted and focussed suggestions. The contents of that file and a quick skim of the PRs and commits doesn’t change my mind on that, the project still looks like it’s made by competent developers who may or may not use AI for debugging/brainstorming.

            I know some people will still prefer having zero AI usage and that’s fine too. For me their AI use doesn’t meet the threshold for me to have doubts about the quality and longevity of the product.

            I also found this: their website / blog uses the Eleventy static site generator: https://github.com/bonfire-networks/website-blog

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    If friendica is interesting to you, you may give a try to (streams) and Forte. They’re evolutions of the friendica and hubzilla codebase, by the same authors, to turn it in a slightly different direction: namely, (streams) is a ActivityPub-centered experience and Forte is ActivityPub-only, both with honestly amazing features still not found elsewhere. They should both be looked at by more people (unfortunately their style is dated)

    https://forum.statler.ws/channel/streamsgarden