OECD being the always the same map states, a.k.a. the “free world,” a.k.a. “NATO and pals.”
It’s almost as if in order to have outcomes, you have to materially invest in those outcomes.
The Western world is fast approaching the limits of how far pure idealism can take them
The Western world is fast approaching the limits of how far pure idealism can take them
Don’t worry, they are measuring those limits with a caliper and riding the line as far as it can take them
Damn I wonder what happened in 2019-2020. Must’ve been the wind
It’s strange that it never recovered, too.
and in case anybody is wondering how other countries are doing
what confuses me about china here is that they only test 4 provinces.
i’d be interested in the result for the whole country
The system in China is fairly standardized, so I’d expect the results would be similar.
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Huh, I wonder what Singapore is doing different.
It’s small. I’d imagine that helps with keeping consistency.
They just have an extremely competitive school system. The score does come with a cost.
Maybe, but does no one else have a competitive school system? That seems incomplete.
Singapore really is a special case in that regard. China dropping on the list is likely a healthy sign actually because it means less pressure on the kids.
Why is almost every country on that list worse than they used to be?
Climate change, COVID, late stage capitalism, fascism, social media… The so-called polycrisis. It’s no wonder kids aren’t as enthusiastic about learning anymore. I wouldn’t be either.
The so-called polycrisis
It’s called capitalism.
Well… fuck
https://xcancel.com/RnaudBertrand/status/2097511936728649809
based on the replies, europe aint coming out of this anytime soon, since there seems to be a complete unwillingness to actually deal with the issue. instead, what we see is the racism reflexes of the ethnically fascist europeans coming out
There is a lot of denial in the west, people who’ve been taught they’re special and superior to everyone else are having a hard time adjusting to the world where the west is no longer at the top.
It’s almost like moving to all remote learning for a couple years left kids behind educationally. I’m lucky to be old enough to be well out of schooling when the pandemic came around, but I can’t imagine having to go through high school remotely and having any sort of expectation for success.
This drop started in 2018 though?
There are no data points between 2018 and 2022. Having said that, looking at the more legible charts on page 57 of the full report (same content as the summary chart, just easier to read), it looks like:
- Science has been falling pretty steadily starting at the 2009-2012 cycle. No apparent covid effects.
- Reading and math both might have had a decline leading up to 2018 (I’d need someone to do actual statistics to know if it is statistically significant). However, they had a significantly bigger decline starting in the 2018-2022 cycle, and continuing into the 2022-2025 cycle.
Ah, NM then.
Not to mention the massive use of LLMs to do the homework and thinking for the student.
Grredy and right wing govs don’t want a good school system, they wouldn’t exist without ignorant and stupid people, they need obedient and ignorant minions.
I guess they did leave some children behind after all. Didn’t some of the first public access AIs launch around 2018?
wonder when lte video content became available.
One two punch of no in-person schooling into llms. There’s years of kids who really got fucked.
So the world did end in 2012?
13% of the world maybe
My favorite chart from this report is the one on page ~230ish where they show science benchmark test scores for students who use AI to study, and it basically just makes you perform much worse at any level (except one data point where the AI users perform only slightly worse). I’ve kept a few print outs of the page to hand out to the AI-pilled students I work with. In one of their words “wow. This is pretty damning”.
But don’t worry, we have AI now…
