Not that I use the junk this company ships to stores but a part of me would like to hear the meeting where someone proposed this and the rationale to support it.
Easy. Because then it means that the easiest way to get files off your phone to your computer (definitely a Mac, right? RIGHT?) is via an iCloud subscription. Why sell a cable for $10 when you can sell a monthly subscription for $3?
And this is nothing new at all for Apple. I still remember how infuriating it was having to deal with iTunes for moving files to and from my iPod Touch. Jailbreaking so I didn’t have to deal with iTunes was such a relief
Android obviously having no issues with you just having direct access to the file system makes it so much easier
nothing about using a USB-C cable inherently means it has to support USB3.
framing it as “limits it to USB 3 Speeds” is misleading. iPhone has only ever supported USB 2, all they’re doing here is continuing to not upgrade to USB 3. the meeting where somebody proposed it went like this:
hey, should we put a USB 3 chip in the new iPhone?
nah, let’s just keep using the same one as the last generation
How many people do you honestly think transfer data by cable? I haven’t done it in years, and I have friends with iphones that don’t even own a computer!
USB 3 is significantly faster than wifi so I frequently use it for larger file transfers. But I guess with iphone’s crippled filesystem you would never have reason to transfer anything.
because their current lighting cable only transfers at USB 2.0 speeds as well
This is the main reason. People are confusing the protocol (USB 2.0/3.0) with the connector (USB C/Lightning). Apple slapping a different connector on the phone isn’t changing the underlying technology inside the phone. People claiming that USB-C must mean 3.0 are just spreading FUD in order to shit on Apple again.
And, as others in this thread have pointed out, high speed transfers by cable are low priority for phone users, there are much better tools to do that, like maybe an external hard drive.
The current implementation uses the same electrical wiring as USB 2.0 and they used it because at the time USB-C 2.0 hadn’t been released yet. Fair enough, but that was a decade ago, so there’s no reason that they haven’t upgraded in that time except they realised that it let them sell an inferior cable for more money and tell everyone it was better than USB-C standard. The thing is, if you’re moving over to USB-C now anyway why not also take the opportunity to upgrade to 3.0 speeds?
It would cost them literally nothing to do that, and they’re still not doing it. Well at the same time they’re going on and on about how amazingly fast their wireless charger is. Seems suspicious.
Why?
Not that I use the junk this company ships to stores but a part of me would like to hear the meeting where someone proposed this and the rationale to support it.
Easy. Because then it means that the easiest way to get files off your phone to your computer (definitely a Mac, right? RIGHT?) is via an iCloud subscription. Why sell a cable for $10 when you can sell a monthly subscription for $3?
And this is nothing new at all for Apple. I still remember how infuriating it was having to deal with iTunes for moving files to and from my iPod Touch. Jailbreaking so I didn’t have to deal with iTunes was such a relief
Android obviously having no issues with you just having direct access to the file system makes it so much easier
nothing about using a USB-C cable inherently means it has to support USB3.
framing it as “limits it to USB 3 Speeds” is misleading. iPhone has only ever supported USB 2, all they’re doing here is continuing to not upgrade to USB 3. the meeting where somebody proposed it went like this:
Why pay for a better component when the sheep will gladly pay inflated prices for the same old crap?
How many people do you honestly think transfer data by cable? I haven’t done it in years, and I have friends with iphones that don’t even own a computer!
It ruins displayport alternative mode
USB 3 is significantly faster than wifi so I frequently use it for larger file transfers. But I guess with iphone’s crippled filesystem you would never have reason to transfer anything.
Spite. They hate the fact they are made to use USB-C so they’re in a strop.
I’m not 100% sure this is why, because their current lighting cable only transfers at USB 2.0 speeds as well (480Mbit/s max)
This is the main reason. People are confusing the protocol (USB 2.0/3.0) with the connector (USB C/Lightning). Apple slapping a different connector on the phone isn’t changing the underlying technology inside the phone. People claiming that USB-C must mean 3.0 are just spreading FUD in order to shit on Apple again.
And, as others in this thread have pointed out, high speed transfers by cable are low priority for phone users, there are much better tools to do that, like maybe an external hard drive.
The current implementation uses the same electrical wiring as USB 2.0 and they used it because at the time USB-C 2.0 hadn’t been released yet. Fair enough, but that was a decade ago, so there’s no reason that they haven’t upgraded in that time except they realised that it let them sell an inferior cable for more money and tell everyone it was better than USB-C standard. The thing is, if you’re moving over to USB-C now anyway why not also take the opportunity to upgrade to 3.0 speeds?
It would cost them literally nothing to do that, and they’re still not doing it. Well at the same time they’re going on and on about how amazingly fast their wireless charger is. Seems suspicious.