So in other words more than a 60% supermajority of Americans don’t support ICE
For MAGA Republicans
Cult members gonna cult. What percentage of likely voters are identifying as MAGA now and what was that same number in January 2025? Because I’d bet that’s gone down
Thank you for the link!
Six in 10 Americans disapprove of the job ICE is doing, while about 3 in 10 approve.
So in reality about twice as many people oppose ICE as support them. I think Americans have a lot of opinions they need to reconsider, but the ICE problem isn’t being driven by that, it’s being driven by a government that can pursue extreme and violent policies regardless of public opinion, which is a whole different problem to deal with, and I think that problem is only made worse by overstating the degree of popular support ICE has.
The question people need to be asking themselves about this issue is not “Why do so many people support this?”, it’s “Why doesn’t our government listen to us?”
I cant believe it
Good, you really shouldn’t believe random bullshit people say without any evidence
half of Americans still support ICE
Citation needed
The influential group
Citation needed
Also, denying someone in your custody medical care really ought to be considered torture, which really ought to be some sort of crime
No, ICE and CBP are separate agencies, they just both happen to be appallingly racist (even by the standards of US law enforcement). The county board successfully forced the sheriff to ban ICE agents, but in response to that she went out of her way to hold a press conference to tell the board they better not try to ban CBP agents too or else, which is probably more just deeply annoying to me than it is actually consequential at this point, but could turn into a lawsuit if the county does try to ban CBP I’d suppose.
But of course pigs are still pigs
Kelly Martinez, San Diego County’s elected sheriff, said after the vote… CBP could continue using a county facility, setting up a showdown with the supervisors, who are also elected. The sheriff made a lengthy defense of CBP’s work…
Related articles, “The Legacy of Racism within the U.S. Border Patrol” (arc) and “Border Patrol has a history of excessive force. Critics say they’re out of their depth” (arc)
Related story from 2023, “Government’s own experts found ‘barbaric’ and ‘negligent’ conditions in ICE detention” (arc)
In Michigan, a man in the custody of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) was sent into a jail’s general population unit with an open wound from surgery, no bandages and no follow-up medical appointment scheduled, even though he still had surgical drains in place.
A federal inspector found: “The detainee never received even the most basic care for his wound.”
In Georgia, a nurse ignored an ICE detainee who urgently asked for an inhaler to treat his asthma. Even though he was never examined by the medical staff, the nurse put a note in the medical record that “he was seen in sick call.”
“The documentation by the nurse bordered on falsification and the failure to see a patient urgently requesting medical attention regarding treatment with an inhaler was negligent.”
And in Pennsylvania, a group of correctional officers strapped a mentally ill male ICE detainee into a restraint chair and gave the lone female officer a pair of scissors to cut off his clothes for a strip search.
“There is no justifiable correctional reason that required the detainee who had a mental health condition to have his clothes cut off by a female officer while he was compliant in a restraint chair. This is a barbaric practice and clearly violates … basic principles of humanity.”
These findings are all part of a trove of more than 1,600 pages of previously secret inspection reports written by experts hired by the Department of Homeland Security’s Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties. In examining more than two dozen facilities across 16 states from 2017 to 2019, these expert inspectors found “negligent” medical care (including mental health care), “unsafe and filthy” conditions, racist abuse of detainees, inappropriate pepper-spraying of mentally ill detainees and other problems that, in some cases, contributed to detainee deaths.
These reports almost never become public.
For more than three years, the federal government — under both the Trump and Biden administrations — fought NPR’s efforts to obtain those records. That opposition continued despite a Biden campaign promise to "demand transparency in and independent oversight over ICE.
The records were obtained in response to a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit brought by NPR. After two years, a federal judge found that the government had violated the nation’s public records law and ordered the release of the documents.
(Italics in original, bolding added)
Yeah, that’s what they’re saying, but I suggest against taking the words of organizations that just got done lying to all of us at face value
Given that they gave inflated polling results to a centrist in one race and to a socialist in a different one, I am currently going with betting site manipulation, but we need the names of the people involved with this and all of their communications and records to get dumped before we’ll have a chance at knowing anything for sure (well, I know for sure these people can go fuck themselves, but other than that)
Was it even? Like to be totally clear I think everyone involved with this was/is fucking scum who did damage to everyone’s faith in democracy and willingness to trust anything they read, but I really can’t figure out their actual goal here. One of the people they showed winning was on the left and lost, another person they showed inflated numbers for was a centrist and ultimately got the most votes, so it’s all over the map ideologically speaking.
My best guess at this point is that this was actually an attempt to manipulate betting markets and profit off of that, but this whole thing needs a bunch of subpoenas before we’ll have any clue why they did this.
The one thing I will say with confidence at this point is that everyone involved in this was fucking scum and they need to be named and shamed so they can’t ever abuse public trust like this again, so I hope there’s more reporting on this.
Meanwhile if any of these people try to escape this oppression by migrating anywhere they’ll get treated like terrorists
Great example of why we can’t ever let dipshits like Biden have power ever again. Trying to win over for-profit scumbags by bribing them with taxpayer money doesn’t work, it just gives them more resources to be shitty with. It didn’t work when Clinton tried it with the telecos, didn’t work when Obama tried it with the insurance companies, and it should have been no surprise it wasn’t going to work here either.
“Alleges,” please, there’s video of ICE agents throwing her into the pavement and X-rays and medical evidence of the injuries she suffered as a result. The only thing open to argument here is whether or not there’s going to be accountability, pretending like there’s any mystery over what happened here is bullshit.
The NYT is a transphobic, war crime excusing, bootlicking shit rag that just happens to have so many resources at their disposal that sometimes they can’t help but accidentally do reporting so good that I have to upvote it in spite of those facts
Well, that shouldn’t be how it works. Hoping to see the return of the rule of law to this country at some point in my lifetime.
I think it’s because Newsom just wrote an autobiography where he talked about this woman and she responded with her side of the story
We’re living in inevitable consequence of lazy thinking moderates throwing money hand over fist at militaries and police forces for decades which this fuckin shit rag of a magazine was happy to cheer on