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20·23 hours agoNo, I just don’t think we should be dumping our prisoners on any other countries, Venezuela or El Salvador or anywhere else
That said, in terms of bad stuff we’ve done to El Salvador specifically, we have propped up super brutal right wing governments there for decades specifically because it’s the northern most South American country and DC wants them to be a choke point where every wouldbe migrant from the area can get kidnapped and brutalized far enough away from the US that our journalists won’t ever notice. Like, CECOT never would have been built without US security aid.
an El Salvadoran prison.
I appreciate the sentiment, but we’ve done enough to that country already, and it’s not like this one lacks for prison cells
After Bovino threw the can, the Star-Tribune wrote, “plumes of green and gray smoke burst over the crowd,” causing protesters and observers to flee the scene.
That is probably not normal tear gas (which is bad enough), it’s likely HC smoke which is extremely carcinogenic (arc).
If there is any justice for any of this someday there’s going to be a massive settlement and taxpayers are going to be paying for cancer and hospice treatment for thousands of people affected by this in a couple of decades.
e; There was a good step by step guide for disarming these somewhere that I can’t find right now, but if memory serves it was 1. Approach with leaf blower to direct smoke away from you, 2. Drop a traffic cone over the grenade to contain its smoke a bit more, 3. Dump a mixture of water and baking soda into the cone and drown the grenade.
e2; We don’t have definitive information that this is what it looks like for sure yet, so I added the two italicized words.
Most Democrats are conservatives.
Yeah.
We only have like two progressives in Congress (Bernie, Warren).
They’re great, but I think we could definitely add some names to that list if you include the House. Off the top of my head there’s also AOC, Ilhan Omar, Pramila Jayapal, Mark Pocan, and Shri Thanedar.
“I no longer [sound of US missile destroying boat off the coast of Venezuela,] feel an obligation to think purely [sound of US guns murdering survivors] of Peace”
In a statement, a spokesperson for DHS denied the attorneys’ claims, adding that all detainees “have opportunities to communicate with their family members and lawyers.”
“The facts are illegal aliens in detention have access to phones they can use to contact their families and lawyers. …
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“If ICE is trying to say, ‘Oh, it’s fine, you can just have your client call you and you can talk and discuss their case over the phone,’ that’s absolutely unacceptable from an attorney-client standpoint. [Federal authorities] can and likely are listening in to those phone calls.”
They already drop the jury and make the “judge” an executive branch employee for immigration “trials,” spying on defense counsel is like kneecapping the Washington Generals point guard
Whenever push comes to shove the New York Times will side with power over truth
The level of delusion required to believe that the finance industry would ever try to make the world a better place without being forced to do so is unfathomable
Absolutely, if only to make it really clear to future Americans that this kind of behavior from a government agency is completely unacceptable and leads to real consequences. Besides that, it’s a way easier policy lift than Defund the Police - we could just go back to how we did things in the 90s and bring back Immigration and Naturalization Services, who were more like DMV workers making sure paperwork was in order than the psychopath gun wielding spec ops wannabes that have always made up Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
Of course, since this is such an obvious good idea, the second worst group of people in America are going into overdrive right now - “Dems Are Begging Their Own to Drop ‘Abolish ICE’ - A new memo circulating on Capitol Hill urges Democratic lawmakers to instead embrace reforming the agency.” (arc)
Nothing matters until suddenly it does matter
Fair point, but I’ll take empty posturing that people might run further with than Walz actually wants them to over stuff like
- Mayor Jacob Frey Says ‘I Do Not Support Abolishing ICE’ After Telling Agents to ‘Get the F*ck Out of Minneapolis’ (arc)
and
Were they actually restored? Unless I missed something, the only evidence presented for that is an anonymous federal government employee, which is an organization that’s been known to lie about a lot of stuff. Until one of these orgs confirms the money is in their accounts acting like the feds have definitely reversed course here is premature.
Agree with everything you say except the last sentence. Long term I don’t think there’s anywhere people can flee to that will put them beyond the reach of the US government. It has to be confronted and stopped.
This is basically the Kilmar Abrego Garcia case all over again except the judge is a fucking idiot and asshole who will apparently accept any bullshit the feds come up with to say why they’re actually really sorry about this terrible accident but it would be just impossible for them to do literally anything at all to fix the mess they made
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Stearns said he did not think a contempt finding seemed appropriate. However, there are the human consequences, he said. He floated a solution: Why not just grant Lopez Belloza, by all accounts a good student attending Babson on a scholarship, a student visa?
Yeah, that’s a federal judge being presented with the federal government breaking the fucking law and just being like, “Doesn’t look like anything to me! But I get that you’re upset right now, and since you’ve gotten such good grades let’s see if maybe we can’t do you a little favor.”
Yeah, that’s fair. For the record, I think NPR (and PBS) are among the best and most ethical American news organizations, but they’re still only about half as committed to their own ideals as what this country needs.
“Veterans of the Great War claim Germany has lost its way, saying ‘Sure, we invaded other countries and used chemical weapons on people, but when we did those things we pretended to be sad about it, these Nazi kids are making us look bad!’”
Anybody who ever worked for ICE can fuck all the way off
NPR: “Everybody thinks we’re a bunch out of touch elites, how do we reconnect with ‘Real America’?”
Walmart Advertising executive: “I have an idea for you.”
NPR: “Well, you seem like a trustworthy sort without any kind of ulterior motives, please go on!”
I mean, fair, I definitely would be interested in more information about this if anyone has it, but the description fits, it seems like the exact sort of dick move this administration would pull, and its probably going to be impossible to get any more information soon besides just the loose descriptions we have, so I’d say it’s more likely than not that this is HC smoke until more information becomes available.